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Old 08-10-2012, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by skylover
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(I figured folks who frequent this thread will be able to answer my question)

Obviously Delta has ordered 100 737-900ERs. However, those can't possibly be enough to replace the hundreds of aging 757, 767, A319, A320, and MD88 aircraft that Delta currently has. What is the plan in terms of fleet renewal? Maybe they'll pull an American and try to standardize their domestic fleet to just a couple types?
Over the next 4 to 5 years Delta has 208 new airframes on firm order or already purchased awaiting mod lines. Those are all narrow bodies. They are planning a wide body order for the last quarter of this year. I would expect that at some point when the 900ER orders are ending a NEO or Max order will be placed. The economy will determine the retirement schedule of the current aircraft. Many of the 757's were purchased from 96 to 01 and are not that old. The 757 is planned in the fleet to 2025.
As far as fleet standardization Delta can't seem to decide what they want. 6 years ago they stated they could not survive unless they got down to 3 aircraft types. Then the merger with NW happened and now they are on a buying surge with the apparent attempt to purchase every oddball aircraft available.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Over the next 4 to 5 years Delta has 208 new airframes on firm order or already purchased awaiting mod lines. Those are all narrow bodies. They are planning a wide body order for the last quarter of this year. I would expect that at some point when the 900ER orders are ending a NEO or Max order will be placed. The economy will determine the retirement schedule of the current aircraft. Many of the 757's were purchased from 96 to 01 and are not that old. The 757 is planned in the fleet to 2025.
As far as fleet standardization Delta can't seem to decide what they want. 6 years ago they stated they could not survive unless they got down to 3 aircraft types. Then the merger with NW happened and now they are on a buying surge with the apparent attempt to purchase every oddball aircraft available.
In regards to NWA, their 757-300s are relatively young and are great for DL's mid-range high-density routes. Some of the A319s are young as well, as are the A330s. Delta's 737-7/8s still have plenty of life in them, as well as their MD90s and soon-to-be-Delta 717s.

Any word about the 767ER? I know Delta is working on making the interior up-to-date, so they probably have long term plans for those as well. I personally would guess that the 787 on order for 2020 will replace the 767ERs nicely.

(By the way, not asking this for any particular reason other than curiosity)
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
...and now they are on a buying surge with the apparent attempt to purchase every oddball aircraft available.
LOL, six degrees of Long Beach, although 964 and 965 are really streching it, being that they're made in China...

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Old 08-10-2012, 06:24 PM
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The ER interior mod is very expensive. They plan on doing every aircraft so that seems to mean they will be around for at least 5 years. The same applies to the 747-400.
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:37 PM
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Nice Catch - VR-46 was the US Navy C-9B squadron at Dobbins AFB which has now moved and I think also changed aircraft. I bet a ton af DAL guys have flown with that squadron.

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VR-46 is still a Navy C-9 squadron. They moved to Navy Fort Worth about a year and a half ago, and will be decommissioned here shortly along with VR-52. VR-52 was recently moved from Willow Grove to McQuire, AFB. Moral of the story...when the Navy moves an entire squadron hundreds of miles to a new base, sometimes into a brand new hangar as well, the shutdown is around the corner! VR-61, NAS Whidbey Island, will soon be the final and last Navy C-9B squadron.
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Originally Posted by skylover
Maybe they'll pull an American and try to standardize their domestic fleet to just a couple types?
Four, actually... CRJ900, EMB-175, 737-900, and a few NEOs ought to do it.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Over the next 4 to 5 years Delta has 208 new airframes on firm order or already purchased awaiting mod lines. Those are all narrow bodies. They are planning a wide body order for the last quarter of this year. I would expect that at some point when the 900ER orders are ending a NEO or Max order will be placed. The economy will determine the retirement schedule of the current aircraft. Many of the 757's were purchased from 96 to 01 and are not that old. The 757 is planned in the fleet to 2025.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
As far as fleet standardization Delta can't seem to decide what they want. 6 years ago they stated they could not survive unless they got down to 3 aircraft types. Then the merger with NW happened and now they are on a buying surge with the apparent attempt to purchase every oddball aircraft available.
Delta's fleet plan is not based on standardization but rather opportunism.

I did hear once that at a certain point you max out on how much you can save on a given fleet's cost and that our fleets were big enough to max out on the savings. Or so they said.
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:05 PM
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:05 AM
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Well, in interesting posts... Anyways don't forget to bid, due today.
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