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Old 08-08-2012, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
If the second offer is worse, then you vote it down 100 percent to 0. If the third offer is still worse, then you walk away from the table. Are we really that bad at negotiating? The answer is yes.
I saw a little satire in his post.
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Old 08-08-2012, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirtdiver
Thanks. I spotted it on the exception list and removed it, no help.
Did it at least ask you to remember the password once you put it back in? You may have to delete it also from the list of remembered passwords and start from scratch.
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Old 08-08-2012, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by groundstop
Even in BK these guys have more balls than the DAL pilot group. Wow...
Sad, but true.
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Old 08-08-2012, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by texavia
Sad, but true.

The Delta pilot group never had to vote on a offer like the American pilots were voting on. Even the 1113 contract at Delta was far better in most areas then what AMR is trying to force on the pilots. The single giant difference being duration but every other section except pay is far worse.
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Old 08-08-2012, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by groundstop
Even in BK these guys have more balls than the DAL pilot group. Wow...
Lol. You're actually going to compare their BK TA to our contract?
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:22 PM
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Tomorrow I start my 12th straight day of flying. All trips with strategic 24 hour breaks sprinkled in. Reserve with no yellow slip activated. I'm already over 60 hours credit with 10 days to go. CS said to expect the reign of terror for the rest of the month. We are out of pilots in my category. After my 3 day I'll be at 14 days straight flying with no end in sight. I've never worked this hard in an airplane before. My guess is 110 credit on reserve when they're through having their way with me.

Bring on the new hires before this place starts melting down further!!
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
seems like ground handling might be part of the stick to get DCI providers to agree to reshuffling the RJ fleet...

Regional Elite is no more...

Cheers
George
Now that IS GOOD NEWS!!!
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Good point. We need to keep things in perspective. It does not matter.

At least not compared to Olympic Beach Volleyball.




I'm a pig. I like beach volleyball for the uniforms.
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
If its not rest, then it breaks up the lookback. That's why if you don't check your schedule during your 24 hour FAR rest, as soon as that rest is over, that is a break in your rest. If you have a report 5 hours later that's fine, but the break in your rest triggers the lookback and is therefore functionally the same as duty. They can't have it both ways. They just can't.
Okay amigo, you be the pioneer on that one.

It doesn't apply to me anyhow, but very interestingly, there is an internal co. memo floating around about the (im)practicality of 24 hour shortcall for ULH crews. It is very illuminatig about how the company looks at it - and IMO, it is a factual and honest viewpoint the company takes.

If you are an ULH pilot that sits reserve sometimes, the memo is not "readily available." tic
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fly2002
Tomorrow I start my 12th straight day of flying. All trips with strategic 24 hour breaks sprinkled in. Reserve with no yellow slip activated. I'm already over 60 hours credit with 10 days to go. CS said to expect the reign of terror for the rest of the month. We are out of pilots in my category. After my 3 day I'll be at 14 days straight flying with no end in sight. I've never worked this hard in an airplane before. My guess is 110 credit on reserve when they're through having their way with me.

Bring on the new hires before this place starts melting down further!!
I just finished up 13 days in a row. I feel your pain.
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