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08-07-2012, 03:53 PM
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Also if you have had a number password for a while and now have a new one with the new rules, to make things much easier when calling Dal Crew on your phone, set up a PIN! You won't have to remember the number coincidental to letters for punching it in on your phone.
08-07-2012, 04:05 PM
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This used to be the case but this last time (2 days ago) I was getting a countdown in Icrew that I couldn't ignore etc. They're now forcing this on us. Uncle Ferd recommended a solution a long time ago that seems to work.
Use a number heavy password and change the letter at the end. A, B, C etc. Has worked like a champ and you're never more than one letter off.
Good luck.
Use a number heavy password and change the letter at the end. A, B, C etc. Has worked like a champ and you're never more than one letter off.
Good luck.
08-07-2012, 04:07 PM
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This used to be the case but this last time (2 days ago) I was getting a countdown in Icrew that I couldn't ignore etc. They're now forcing this on us. Uncle Ferd recommended a solution a long time ago that seems to work.
Use a number heavy password and change the letter at the end. A, B, C etc. Has worked like a champ and you're never more than one letter off.
Good luck.
Use a number heavy password and change the letter at the end. A, B, C etc. Has worked like a champ and you're never more than one letter off.
Good luck.
When I asked the gal on the phone who walked me through it, I asked if I could use 2, and just flip-flop them, she said,"No, it has to be a new one each time."
Then I told her I would probably not be showing up for my trips after about 180 days, because I won't be able to access iCrew to view my line, because there's NO WAY I'll remember my 'new' passwords if I have to change them every 90 days!
She said, "Well, company policy is you MUST change it, every 90 days."
It's amazing to me we've managed to survive this long, without that 'improvment' to security.
This policy was obviously written by someone who's never been out of their cubicle, and knows they have to show up at 8, every Monday...unless it's a holiday of course.I'm sure any MD88 F/O worth his intermittant auto-spoilers will find another 'workaround' before too long, but for now, it's a huge pita!
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08-07-2012, 04:37 PM
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I've been wondering if there is a way to outsmart the Borg, I wonder if it remembers previous passwords? Can I use 4, and cycle through them every 90 days? Perhaps use change-over month at the front, some numbers, then A, B, C, D, whatever, at the back, and just keep cycling them...or will it know if one has been used before, even if it was more than 4 cycles ago?
When I asked the gal on the phone who walked me through it, I asked if I could use 2, and just flip-flop them, she said,"No, it has to be a new one each time."
Then I told her I would probably not be showing up for my trips after about 180 days, because I won't be able to access iCrew to view my line, because there's NO WAY I'll remember my 'new' passwords if I have to change them every 90 days!
She said, "Well, company policy is you MUST change it, every 90 days."
It's amazing to me we've managed to survive this long, without that 'improvment' to security. This policy was obviously written by someone who's never been out of their cubicle, and knows they have to show up at 8, every Monday...unless it's a holiday of course.
I'm sure any MD88 F/O worth his intermittant auto-spoilers will find another 'workaround' before too long, but for now, it's a huge pita!
When I asked the gal on the phone who walked me through it, I asked if I could use 2, and just flip-flop them, she said,"No, it has to be a new one each time."
Then I told her I would probably not be showing up for my trips after about 180 days, because I won't be able to access iCrew to view my line, because there's NO WAY I'll remember my 'new' passwords if I have to change them every 90 days!
She said, "Well, company policy is you MUST change it, every 90 days."
It's amazing to me we've managed to survive this long, without that 'improvment' to security.
This policy was obviously written by someone who's never been out of their cubicle, and knows they have to show up at 8, every Monday...unless it's a holiday of course.I'm sure any MD88 F/O worth his intermittant auto-spoilers will find another 'workaround' before too long, but for now, it's a huge pita!
08-07-2012, 04:54 PM
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I think calling your day a 17 or 18 hour day is a bit of a stretch. We used to simply be on call 19 days a month 24 hours a day with 2 hours to report. Using your logic I had lots of 100 hour plus duty hour assignments. Sitting at home and having to reply to a phone call within 10 minutes is not all that taxing. I commute so would have to sit in a hotel or crashpad. Still not really difficult to hit answer on my cell if it rings. Contractually you are not on duty until you report at the airport for the trip. FAR's also don't have you on duty until that point. Whitlow is a rest based look back that requires 8 hours of rest in any 24 hour period. Its not considered duty.
08-07-2012, 05:02 PM
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Congress is 10 times more crucial in this election than the White House is.
08-07-2012, 05:40 PM
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08-07-2012, 05:52 PM
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08-07-2012, 05:53 PM
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08-07-2012, 06:00 PM
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In order to remember all these changing passwords guys will have to write them down in their wallets or keep them in their phones somewhere. Or they will have to use passwords that will be easier for them to remember and therefore easier for someone to guess. Combinations of birthdays or addresses or anniversaries or pet's names, etc. etc.
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