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Old 08-06-2012, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Free Bird
Delta staffs for the average, we're almost always short in the summers and fat in the winter. Just repeating what I was told by the ALPA folks in regards to our staffing.
Which strengthens my point of us not being overstaffed.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:19 AM
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Hey Bucking Bar --
I'm coming back to your jet.
This bid guarantees me a reinstatement.
Layover beers are on me.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Cubdrick
The way I read it was that this upcoming AE is only one of [potentially] several AEs and they are not attempting to replace all RMAs in one swoop due to training issues and early-out withdrawals. (That would be a swift kick to have your award reversed before you even got to training.)

Hopefully the next few AEs prove to be an overall net positive and reverse the trend.
This bid is only the first of 3 bids that will fill the RMA's leaving and staff for the flying schedule next summer. Until the final block hour plan is out from marketing we wont know what the next bids will look like.
For all the angst on the contract the net effect on jobs is expected to be 125 to 150 positions. That accounts for the 300 to 340 lost via the ALV 15 and 2 hour increase mitigated by the other productivity changes in our favor on the contract.
Contrast that with block hours. If the company decides to fly the schedule next summer with a net 5% reduction from this summer then we lose 500 plus jobs. Block hours are going to be what determines the next bids. The contract we just signed will have little to do with it. In the end it all comes down to the economy. Lets hope it improves.
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Hey, big girls need lov'n too!
Yes they do, sir. Yes they do.

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Old 08-06-2012, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Hey Bucking Bar --
I'm coming back to your jet.
This bid guarantees me a reinstatement.
Layover beers are on me.
You might get get round two. Many years of expense account living makes me the quickest wallet draw in the Southeast. I've beat a 727 Captain on a green slip with conflict before

Be great to have you back!
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
"...And when I say all of our FAs should be young, hot, and have their hair well groomed, I'm talking about this right here."
Boomer,
Has to be post of the year! We need a Hall of Fame thread for classic posts like this, timeless!
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:22 PM
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dragon
I agree, this AE is very small. However almost all of the openings are in the left seat. Does anyone really think they won't fill the B seats that are vacated as folks move up.

Read the memo on DLNET. We're still waiting for the network guys and the MBAs to decide which way we'll go for next summer before we really start to do anything. I think this bid is positive with 86 more openings than displacements and while I don't want to put too much sunshine on your doom and gloom parade, WB A positions generate the most training events and as folks move up they'll have to replace some of them. The largest category to lose folks to the RMA was the 7ERA and they didn't take the opportunity to further shrink the ATL 767 category.

For all of your ulcers' sakes, lighten up! For the record, I was a no voter.
Very true, its also a conservative way to put the bids out there. If most take it they can award more. As for FO's they are not putting them out there because 1) that is where most to over staffing is, and 2) putting openings out there would cause consternation and teeth gnashing if many pulled their paperwork and the positions were not awarded. On the A side, they are making best guess on what will stick with some conservative slop.
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Overstaffed? I'm a NYC 7er B reserve, & we ran out of reserves almost everyday in July. I worked 80 hours/4 trips and managed only 3 days of LC. The WX hasn't even been bad this summer as the Midwest is in a terrible drought. The NYC 320B category is the same way. They are often lucky to have 1 guy on SC a day. DTW/MSP 320B is short too. I know Elvis90 has been getting hammered on M88 B reserve. If anything, we are properly staffed. Definitely not overstaffed IMO.

Didn't they also announce a further 5% capacity reduction?

One month out of 12 is acceptable to award a ton of GS's. This is likely to be the new norm with being able to staff for winter and flex in summer.
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by vprMatrix
By my count 251 are leaving and 86 are being replaced for a loss of 165 pilots.
Also remember that the company gets to determine the retirement date of all the RMA participants, so if the dates that guys are scheduled to go is after the new year, then there is no need to train the replacement quite yet....

That and the simulator moves to ATL that limit throughput right now....

But by all means, print out the next few AE's and add them up.
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