Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-19-2009, 07:27 PM
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07-19-2009, 07:59 PM
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While I understand that it could not possibly be right in your mind, that is exactly what was done with our previous merger. NWA purchased Republic Airlines for $880 million in cash. The 2 airlines had a totally different fleet - one mostly large, and one mostly small. The arbitrator chose straight Date of Hire.
You left out one important detail about that DOH arbitration award...
Not to mention it's been said many times that the NWA/Republic merger was the way NOT to merge a pilot group.
07-19-2009, 08:00 PM
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07-19-2009, 09:03 PM
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Yep
I was just making sure that the 20 year fence was mentioned.
I was just making sure that the 20 year fence was mentioned.
07-19-2009, 09:11 PM
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07-19-2009, 09:16 PM
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[quote=Carl Spackler;647493]
The credit for future advancement (pull and plug) is the only thing that was given to the DAL-N side. Many on this board said that it would take forever for those 270+ guys to actually retire because of age 65, and the fact that nobody in their right minds would want to retire from the new Delta. One PRIP later (plus the normal retirements we've had), and all 270 are gone. Before SOC. And as such, the only advantage given to the DAL-N pilots is now gone.
Carl,
I do not understand the above statement. I would think all pilots junior to the PRIPs will benefit from their accelerated retirement. This includes Pilots form both North and South. This might also help to minimize or even prevent furloughs to the junior dudes on both sides.
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The credit for future advancement (pull and plug) is the only thing that was given to the DAL-N side. Many on this board said that it would take forever for those 270+ guys to actually retire because of age 65, and the fact that nobody in their right minds would want to retire from the new Delta. One PRIP later (plus the normal retirements we've had), and all 270 are gone. Before SOC. And as such, the only advantage given to the DAL-N pilots is now gone.
Carl,
I do not understand the above statement. I would think all pilots junior to the PRIPs will benefit from their accelerated retirement. This includes Pilots form both North and South. This might also help to minimize or even prevent furloughs to the junior dudes on both sides.
Scoop
07-20-2009, 03:58 AM
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[QUOTE=Scoop;647544]
The credit for future advancement (pull and plug) is the only thing that was given to the DAL-N side. Many on this board said that it would take forever for those 270+ guys to actually retire because of age 65, and the fact that nobody in their right minds would want to retire from the new Delta. One PRIP later (plus the normal retirements we've had), and all 270 are gone. Before SOC. And as such, the only advantage given to the DAL-N pilots is now gone.
Carl,
I do not understand the above statement. I would think all pilots junior to the PRIPs will benefit from their accelerated retirement. This includes Pilots form both North and South. This might also help to minimize or even prevent furloughs to the junior dudes on both sides.
Scoop
I'll explain it for you. Carl just has to have something to be ****ed about. He doesn't let the facts get in the way through such action. He says that the Delta plan was adopted, therefore Delta won. Not true. Delta's original plan had me much more senior than I am. Plus, in a never before utilized tool, there were a number of pull and plugs, if you will remember. That means that those 270ish were pulled, with NWA pilots filling in their gaps, the list created, and then the guys were re-plugged back in. That means that NWA guys got to move up those numbers, and then got to move up again as those guys retired. Delta guys move up only as those guys retired. Get it right.
Fortunately, there are more level heads than not in this merger, and most people realize that it is what it is and are ready to move on. A few exceptions remain.
The credit for future advancement (pull and plug) is the only thing that was given to the DAL-N side. Many on this board said that it would take forever for those 270+ guys to actually retire because of age 65, and the fact that nobody in their right minds would want to retire from the new Delta. One PRIP later (plus the normal retirements we've had), and all 270 are gone. Before SOC. And as such, the only advantage given to the DAL-N pilots is now gone.
Carl,
I do not understand the above statement. I would think all pilots junior to the PRIPs will benefit from their accelerated retirement. This includes Pilots form both North and South. This might also help to minimize or even prevent furloughs to the junior dudes on both sides.
Scoop
Fortunately, there are more level heads than not in this merger, and most people realize that it is what it is and are ready to move on. A few exceptions remain.
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07-20-2009, 04:02 AM
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Gotta give RA credit though, talking to a buddy that him on a flight today out of a DALN hub, he came up to say hi, he wore jeans and he sat in coach.
I think it'd be funny to start a conversation with your seat neighbor only to find out he was the CEO. I once told a guy at a BBQ restaurant in Auburn (land of hot coeds) that this place was not as good as another BBQ place down the street, he of course turned out to be the owner.
I think it'd be funny to start a conversation with your seat neighbor only to find out he was the CEO. I once told a guy at a BBQ restaurant in Auburn (land of hot coeds) that this place was not as good as another BBQ place down the street, he of course turned out to be the owner.
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