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Old 07-23-2012, 07:13 PM
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
Great. Didn't see that coming from Jesse, my golf mentor from the cow pasture at Columbus. Evaluator asked about courses in Cobb and Golfnow.com.

Elvis and I cruised through, or maybe slipped through the cracks - good CQ. Good F/O's make it easy!
I bet that was a cool cockpit!
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You will get paid for both. Your total pay should be around 87:27 plus you should have had a payback day for the day off violated.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
Good F/O's make it easy!
I hear that all of the time. At the end of every trip the Captain looks at me and yells "good F/O's make it easy!" and then storms off.

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Old 07-23-2012, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
... Grrrrr.....teeth grinding.... Is this allowed under the contract?

23.A.15. "Hard non-fly day means a non-fly day on which a pilot may not be inversely assigned to a rotation (e.g., vacation, APD day, reserve PD day, ALPA, legal duty, MLOA, or golden X-day)."

Be advised that you can be rerouted into a Golden Day. A lot of times, crew tracking doesn't know that you are going into a golden day so if you do get rerouted, call them and explain the situation. Most times, they can find someone else. But, it is legal.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
It has nothing to do with the TA. It has more to do with implementation of LOA 29 and the schedulers learning curves, which they are overcoming. A year ago we were utilizing twice as many reserves as planned. Part of the issue was reserve base utilization and the other part was breaking trips up, when that was not necessarily required. They have worked in these two areas and as a result, reserves are working more in line with where the company wants their utilization.
There is one other major factor in reserve use. The last 16 months have had the least weather issues in the last 10 years for Delta. I did not deice once last winter. They quickly ran out of reserves with some thunderstorm issues in June. Weather has a huge overall impact on the number of reserves needed. If we go back to more normal weather patterns they will quickly find themselves short.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Once a trip is on your line that is the minimum for what you will get paid.

This is incorrect information. If you want a correct answer on scheduling issues you need to go to the DALPA committee section and post your question. You will get a QA's answer. I see so many wrong things posted contractually on here that I don't even bother to try and correct most of them.
Short answer to the above question is there is only pay protection in the month the trip originates. Anything that spills over into the following month has no protection until after the carry out trips are adjusted in the following months bid package. You could bid a 4 day trip worth 24 hours and end up getting only paid for the first day if the trip is modified and flying dropped in the following month. Even if it flies as a 4 day the value can be reduced and you get no protection on the spill over portion.
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by nyc7erb
Be advised that you can be rerouted into a Golden Day. A lot of times, crew tracking doesn't know that you are going into a golden day so if you do get rerouted, call them and explain the situation. Most times, they can find someone else. But, it is legal.
Ok.... So what's the point of having a golden day then?
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TheWagman
Ok.... So what's the point of having a golden day then?
Nothing. Golden days are only good for finishing short call at noon on your last day. However, when you get a call at 0930 to cover a rotation at 1130, you can and will finish much later (or the next day if rerouted).
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
This is incorrect information. If you want a correct answer on scheduling issues you need to go to the DALPA committee section and post your question. You will get a QA's answer. I see so many wrong things posted contractually on here that I don't even bother to try and correct most of them.
Short answer to the above question is there is only pay protection in the month the trip originates. Anything that spills over into the following month has no protection until after the carry out trips are adjusted in the following months bid package. You could bid a 4 day trip worth 24 hours and end up getting only paid for the first day if the trip is modified and flying dropped in the following month. Even if it flies as a 4 day the value can be reduced and you get no protection on the spill over portion.
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