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Old 07-21-2012, 08:23 AM
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So my question is since I cannot find where it says I am responsible to be on some telephone recall while on a layover, what would happen if I did not take the call and showed as originally planned?
FOM 3.14.

Captain is responsible as the point of contact for the entire crew. Captain will be consulted first on re routes. In the real world I have had CS contact me, a FO, about rerouting the crew. I have respectfully declined to do so because I have no knowledge of the physiological condition of the crew (rested, nurished, etc...) and did not want to say anything which would obligate a Captain.

The Captains I've flown with have always made the right call, whether it be "sure, we will be right over" to "no, we can't do that."
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Here is my understanding. LIDS was the way PMNW logged MCO's. PMDL used the white and yellow MCO stickers in the front of the logbook. Back in olden times it was determined to go with the PMDL way of logging MCO's. That has now come to fruition except for the aforementioned HAL 330's that were acquired in the aforementioned olden times!

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What HAL 330s????????
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:41 AM
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What HAL 330s????????
The ones they use to over fly our route network and connect passengers to Jet Blue, ANA, New Zeland and others on. Our TOC does a little outsourced maintenance for them and we have a marketing alliance.

But nooo pilots, uh no.
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:44 AM
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What HAL 330s????????

My bad, I guess I was thinking of the 767's.....

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Old 07-21-2012, 08:46 AM
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So last week I'm on a trip and it has a 23 hr layover which happens to be where I live So while at home and making dinner I get a call from scheduling. (My first mistake was to answer the phone.) The scheduler proceeds to tell me that another crew was running 5 hrs late and that crew would not be able to make their 0625 show so he was giving them our 1040 show. He had gone through my captain and we were now going to pickup that part of the trip and then DH to our oringinal destination to finish the rest of our rotation. This turned a sch 6.10 hr day into a sch day 9.37 (actual was 10) and due to the amt of credit on the trip, we made nothing extra.

So my question is since I cannot find where it says I am responsible to be on some telephone recall while on a layover, what would happen if I did not take the call and showed as originally planned?
You're not contactable while on a layover and have no obligation to answer your cell phone or hotel phone. They can't fault you for showing up as originally planned.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:07 AM
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So last week I'm on a trip and it has a 23 hr layover which happens to be where I live So while at home and making dinner I get a call from scheduling. (My first mistake was to answer the phone.) The scheduler proceeds to tell me that another crew was running 5 hrs late and that crew would not be able to make their 0625 show so he was giving them our 1040 show. He had gone through my captain and we were now going to pickup that part of the trip and then DH to our oringinal destination to finish the rest of our rotation. This turned a sch 6.10 hr day into a sch day 9.37 (actual was 10) and due to the amt of credit on the trip, we made nothing extra.

So my question is since I cannot find where it says I am responsible to be on some telephone recall while on a layover, what would happen if I did not take the call and showed as originally planned?
You are 100% not responsible to answer the phone on a layover.

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Old 07-21-2012, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DARR31
So last week I'm on a trip and it has a 23 hr layover which happens to be where I live So while at home and making dinner I get a call from scheduling. (My first mistake was to answer the phone.) The scheduler proceeds to tell me that another crew was running 5 hrs late and that crew would not be able to make their 0625 show so he was giving them our 1040 show. He had gone through my captain and we were now going to pickup that part of the trip and then DH to our oringinal destination to finish the rest of our rotation. This turned a sch 6.10 hr day into a sch day 9.37 (actual was 10) and due to the amt of credit on the trip, we made nothing extra.

So my question is since I cannot find where it says I am responsible to be on some telephone recall while on a layover, what would happen if I did not take the call and showed as originally planned?

No, you are not responsible to be contactable on a layover but, if you do answer, they most likely have you. As a Captain, if I answer the phone, my first question is whether my FO has been contacted yet, if not, then I wont commit until I talk to him/her...... You can draw your own conclusions from that! I want to help the company out as much as possible but will not agree to the reroute until we are both aware of it and in agreement......

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Old 07-21-2012, 11:28 AM
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Funny stuff. I am senior on the ATL M88B, hoping to go to the 717A someday when I can hold it as a line holder. I used to fly the 767 Dom in ATL, but all I was doing was allnighters. No thanks. MSP 73N?? Really? Thanks for all the contract help though. Just remember, short duration, fewer RJs, ratio, 20% raise 3 years, good deal. Have a great night.
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Bill, can I ask a quick question?

If you are senior on the 88, when were you hired? pre 9/11 right?
Here, I guess I'll just ask this Bill. Can you explain these posts in light of your posts of being a senior ATL M88 B? And the dozens of posts trying to find out about jobs from cargo to corporate?

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Why would people be happy to start on the E145 when you could also start on the E170? That's like comparing a C172 to a Citation. I fly a E145 and I would be happy to swap for an E170.
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Republic. E170 kicks the CRJ's butt any day... For roughly the same pay over time +/- a few bucks per hour (since I would be looking at the Majors anyways down the line), I'd rather fly a mini-Airbus vs. a stretched Challenger for the entire time. I wish my POS airline would buy the E170 as I am trapped on the E135/145.


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No worries. I was just venting - I am tired of the regionals. Operators like Jetsuite sound interesting but until they have been operating for awhile I wouldn't personally apply. The founders have some good experience and probably some cash, but the market is pretty fickle. Flying a Phenom 100 around the West Coast would probably be fun though.
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Just curious about what newhire pay (pay range) would look like at Talon Air - say FO on the Hawker 800XP or Hawker 4000. What do these "bottom feeders" tend to pay newhires? Also, are the pilots at Talon cross-qualified on multiple aircraft (e.g., Hawker and the Beechjet or King Air) or just one type?

Talon's got a big fleet of aircraft according to the website. How many pilots total fly for Talon? Also, do these pilots tend to float around from one 135 operation to another at FRG/ISP when things don't work at Talon or do they get blackballed???? Where do they go (besides Jet Blue) when they leave?
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True cgt. My barbie jet is ARCHAIC. I remember feeling a bit depressed about it one day and then I jumpsat on a NWA Diesel 9. I couldn't believe all of those dials and switches. I felt better about my "cutting edge" technology in comparison after that.

I'd happily trade you for your E190 if you are interested... I like that HUD!

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Old 07-21-2012, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DARR31
So last week I'm on a trip and it has a 23 hr layover which happens to be where I live So while at home and making dinner I get a call from scheduling. (My first mistake was to answer the phone.) The scheduler proceeds to tell me that another crew was running 5 hrs late and that crew would not be able to make their 0625 show so he was giving them our 1040 show. He had gone through my captain and we were now going to pickup that part of the trip and then DH to our oringinal destination to finish the rest of our rotation. This turned a sch 6.10 hr day into a sch day 9.37 (actual was 10) and due to the amt of credit on the trip, we made nothing extra.

So my question is since I cannot find where it says I am responsible to be on some telephone recall while on a layover, what would happen if I did not take the call and showed as originally planned?
As a reserve guy I got a 30 hour layover where I live this past week...there was no way I was answering the phone from anyone I didn't know.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:40 AM
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FTB,

Well, that's just weird. Why would anyone ... ?

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