acl65pilot

Over time I can see SLC and MSP become O and D hubs. They are to some extent now, but I see that trend increasing. Because of this, the footprint of a crew base changes as well.

76drvr

Relying on my copy of C2K, yes I was here at the time, C2K excused compliance and automatic fixed resets under a variety of circumstances, including two consecutive quarters in which the company had an operating loss and when the US GDP falls more than 25% below 4.3% in 2002 for example. Since C2K was signed just before 9/11, it is probably less than accurate to state that the contract was intentionally violated.

Raising the block hour ratio to 50% was part of the draconian concessions the Delta pilots approved with LOA 46. Again, not a violation of the contract, but a result negotiations with a near bankrupt carrier.

What occurred after C2K was an extraordinary event and certainly not a common MO.

SailorJerry

I'm hoping that C2K DALPA and Post Merger C2012 DALPA are two different entities. I also don't believe that our management team would knowingly sign an agreement with us only to quickly alter course when things didn't go their way. If you speak of this as the near future then you will instantly see the end of constructive engagement and the true damage a section 1 violation could do to the company.

I agree that outsourcing needs to stop and regardless of what anyone else says, I'm confident we're heading in that direction over the next 10-15 years.

As for SKYW and RJETs momentum, they may be able to order airplanes on paper, but when it comes time to write the check, I'm afraid one or both of them will implode.

SailorJerry

Do the MSP rotations do a lot of deadheading from MSP to ATL or EWR?

Fwiw there's been only a small handful of scheduled NYC M88 Deadheading on the B side anyway...

texavia

https://personal.vanguard.com/us/fun...T#hist=tab%3A0


VFSTX $3000 min and same fund lower expenses VFSUX $50000 min

roadrunner65

I don't really know how much deadheading they do but i know a lot of their trips cover ATL flying. That seems to be the trend, atl and nyc growing and the other hubs shrinking. :Almost all of the dtw dc9 trips fly atl turns for 4 and 5 days then dh back at the end. Maybe
i should just move to atlanta.

shiznit

Not saying that SKYW necessarily 'will' operate all the remaining 50's, but if DAL has no other choice but to be forced into keeping the SWYW/ASA 50's then the swaps may come at other DCI airlines.

As to the DCI flying out of SLC, DAL can put any DCI in any base if there are no other restrictions. I know ASA/XJT has a clause that states a minimum percentage of ATL DCI flying, not sure if SKYW has that in SLC at all.

SKYW wouldn't be able to stop operations overnight and start them up for another airline anyway, so there would be a fairly orderly drawdown if they were to leave the DCI portfolio.

NON SEQUITUR:

For the record, I really want to see a requirement that airlines with ALPA represented pilots be the only carriers that are allowed to be awarded DCI flying or have their DCI flying renewed...... Unfortunately there are those that think that would be the result of a "conflict of interest" agenda pushed by ALPA National. T.S. if there are those who disagree with being a trade unionist. "Independent Union" is an oxymoron.

alfaromeo

If you invest in a bond bubble, hair will grow on your palms. Or something like that.

gloopy

Then tell SKYW to consider this their official notice that 100% of their contracts witl DAL will never, ever be renewed. Have fun trying to do an IndyAir and whizzing away your nest egg playing around in the real world.

sinca3

I guess this is one way to start the process of getting rid of the 50's:
Man Who Crashed Plane in Utah Wanted in Killing, SkyWest Source Says - Yahoo! News