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Old 07-09-2012, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
Guess I better move! In general, it has been easier for me because I almost always reserve the jumpseat. Scheduling threw me a huge curve ball yesterday with a trip 15 minutes prior to the end of short call on my last reserve day. Was supposed to be off at noon, had the jumpseat booked for the 2 PM flight...Oh well...

I'm flying home on AA as we speak, using Gogo.
I know how that is. I'm on reserve also. I do a very similar commute.
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Old 07-09-2012, 11:19 AM
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I just tried it on my stock Android browser and it worked fine. I'm running Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.4 on an HTC Incredible. What kind of phone do you have and what's the version of Android you have?
I've got an Incredible 2 and have been trying to find a way to put 4.0.4 on it, but didn't think it was available yet.
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Old 07-09-2012, 11:50 AM
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We're going to fly to ATL from Dallas Love Field on 50-seaters.

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2012/07/09/delta-to-launch-direct-atlanta-service.html?ana=yfcpc
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
We're going to fly to ATL from Dallas Love Field on 50-seaters.

Delta to launch direct Atlanta service at Love Field - Dallas Business Journal

Years ago we did it on the 40 and 50 seaters. Did not seem to last long. My hunch is we are adding this service so that in 2014 when the Wright Amendment is totally gone we will have a market in place to upgauge and poke a stick in LUV's eye.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
Wait...there's more...15 hr 18 min FAR Duty Time yesterday, which I don't think will be allow under the new duty time rules since I began at 5 AM. Tower in Nassau lost power for a couple hours, then restored power & we left. I called crew tracking with my duty time concerns. I think the new duty limit for that time of day is 14 hours.

Finally, ALL flights ATL-DFW have about 80 standby's trying to get home. So chilling at a hotel in ATL on my first golden day waiting until American has open seats or until my now scheduled jumpseat is available.

Thank you scheduling and crew tracking. Looking forward to the day when I get off reserve.
If you had a 15:18 FAR day yesterday then you were in violation of the contract. Know your contract and enforce it.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
We're going to fly to ATL from Dallas Love Field on 50-seaters.

Delta to launch direct Atlanta service at Love Field - Dallas Business Journal
That'll show 'em.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
If you had a 15:18 FAR day yesterday then you were in violation of the contract. Know your contract and enforce it.
I think that's only for line holders, not reserves. They can be used up to the 16-hour FAR limit.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by upndsky
I think that's only for line holders, not reserves. They can be used up to the 16-hour FAR limit.
That is not correct. Reserves have the same duty time limits as lineholders.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
That is not correct. Reserves have the same duty time limits as lineholders.
Not as I understand it. If you start SC at say 0330 and get called for a trip at 0630, the FAR duty time starts at 0330 but the PWA limitations start at report; 0630.

You can go to 1930 for 16 hrs from start of SC (Whitlow) and two hr beyond the max allowed duty for report time listed on the rotation for the PWA as allowed in the PWA as long as you do not bust 16 for Whitlow off of start of SC.

*Domestic Ops only, Whitlow does not apply for International Flag Operations. Only PWA requirement there is that you report before the end of your 24 hr SC window.

Max international under the FT/DT;FAR117, will be limited by 14 hrs SC and 22 hrs total from what I remember.


** PWA duty time and FAR duty time are different. Projected FAR duty time is listed on the bottom of "A" days summary when you print out a rotation. PWA duty time is listed as ACT/MAX
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
That is not correct. Reserves have the same duty time limits as lineholders.
Well you are correct in the duty part, but what you are missing is that reserve is not DUTY. The duty time limits don't start for a reserve until you report for a trip. The only part that applies here is the 8 hours rest in 24, because reserve is also not considered rest, which means you can only work up to 16 hours. And if that ends in a dead head it can go farther. I was scheduled for over 17 hours from my on call time to the end of duty the other day and found out it was contractually legal because the last leg was a deadhead.
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