Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-08-2012, 06:27 AM
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07-08-2012, 06:29 AM
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They aren't really designated per say. I believe each team is assigned a flight number, so if you learn the number you would know which trips have their flights. However, lots of sports charters are mixed into regular trips. For instance, you may fly a baseball team from LGA-HOU. Then repo to ATL, overnight and go ATL-PHX the next day working a normal revenue flight. All charter packets can be accessed through Deltanet.
07-08-2012, 06:31 AM
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Today is my last reserve day, placed on short call until 1200, since tomorrow is a golden day, and I have a trip with an 1145 report time. Sigh. To add insult to injury...Travelnet won't let me make a standby listing today from ATL-DFW because July 8th is one of the travel embargo days. Looks like I'll be flying American. I think this is the second time I'd say that I've sat short call with 1 day of availability. We need to hire more pilots.
07-08-2012, 06:43 AM
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That's what I expect, as well. The FNWA guys are more likely to take it, given the fact that they have a pension. I'm expecting 200 or so mostly north guys to take the deal, and anticipate little or no trickle-down benefit to me.
07-08-2012, 06:45 AM
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They happen to still have a DB plan. When you have a 401k type retirement plan it behooves you to work longer, i.e. every year you put $ in is a year you aren't taking $ out. If I was within a year I would be gone.
07-08-2012, 06:52 AM
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I don't think you can say more fNWA guys will go or not go. They are also getting a 12+% pay increase.. they reside at the top of the food chain.. and are living pretty easy.
Whether or not most guys will admit this or not.. we all still love flying airplanes. We all TALK the talk.. but when it really comes down to pulling the handles.. like these forums, it's mostly bull****.
Talk amongst yourselves...
Whether or not most guys will admit this or not.. we all still love flying airplanes. We all TALK the talk.. but when it really comes down to pulling the handles.. like these forums, it's mostly bull****.
Talk amongst yourselves...
07-08-2012, 06:59 AM
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I don't think you can say more fNWA guys will go or not go. They are also getting a 12+% pay increase.. they reside at the top of the food chain.. and are living pretty easy.
Whether or not most guys will admit this or not.. we all still love flying airplanes. We all TALK the talk.. but when it really comes down to pulling the handles.. like these forums, it's mostly bull****.
Talk amongst yourselves...
Whether or not most guys will admit this or not.. we all still love flying airplanes. We all TALK the talk.. but when it really comes down to pulling the handles.. like these forums, it's mostly bull****.
Talk amongst yourselves...
Second time hell has frozen over. I agree with T-square. Life is just too good at the top of the food chain.
07-08-2012, 07:01 AM
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Interesting question. A fNWA guy will get his DB retirement for life. A fDAL guy can spend his PBGC and whatever he happened to get with his investments from the note/claim, but those are highly dependent on how successful he has been in those investments. That is the wild card and those that have saved and invested well will potentially do better, but THAT is dependent on their investing prowess, NOT the company's. The fNWA guys can blow it all until they die and will still get the same amount year after year.. (unless DAL files BK again and we give up those plans) so I would say that.. yes.. they do get more. I am sure it can be argued both ways though..
07-08-2012, 07:27 AM
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Interesting question. A fNWA guy will get his DB retirement for life. A fDAL guy can spend his PBGC and whatever he happened to get with his investments from the note/claim, but those are highly dependent on how successful he has been in those investments. That is the wild card and those that have saved and invested well will potentially do better, but THAT is dependent on their investing prowess, NOT the company's. The fNWA guys can blow it all until they die and will still get the same amount year after year.. (unless DAL files BK again and we give up those plans) so I would say that.. yes.. they do get more. I am sure it can be argued both ways though..
Bottom line - the 777A guys are doing just fine, all things considered.
07-08-2012, 07:29 AM
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If you're really a 777A, you still got a significant PBGC benefit, a huge note/claim payout, AND get to work past 60 AND draw your PBGC benefit while you do it. Don't act like the fnw guys have it so much better.
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