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Old 07-02-2012, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
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ATL A320B in July ALV is 79:30.

My time card shows RSV guarantee as 72:30... is this a glitch that will be fixed or something that I missed, because I thought the new RSV guarantee is ALV-2:00?

You have training?
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:35 AM
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yes...because commuting is a choice, right?
Well, let's see. One lives in Melbourne, FL, one in Jacksonville, one in Tampa, and one in Pensacola.

Yeah, I'd definitely say commuting is a choice.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
yes...because commuting is a choice, right?
Well, let's see. One lives in Melbourne, FL, one in Jacksonville, one in Tampa, and one in Pensacola.

Yeah, I'd definitely say commuting is a choice.
I live in West Texas and have my house for sale. I still plan to move to MSP. Is commuting a choice for me? House has been on the market 2 years well below appraised value.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Pay question:

ATL A320B in July ALV is 79:30.

My time card shows RSV guarantee as 72:30... is this a glitch that will be fixed or something that I missed, because I thought the new RSV guarantee is ALV-2:00?
Clamp,

I think it is just your line that is 72:30...... Management is upset that you were so outspoken against the TA.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
Not too many posts past this one, and I don't know the answer but I can use it to segue to a another question about this topic:

Was on SC starting at 0900. Got a trip with an 1830 sign-in. A maintenance delay resulted in the flight finally going out at 2048 (Not that it mattered, but I had been at the airport since 0745 that morning due to all the other flights for the day being over-booked).

The rotation showed an ACTUAL ON DUTY of 5:59 and a MAX DUTY of 10:15 (I ended up with a duty day of 14:59 that day). I was concerned if there was anything other than 16 hrs (15:30 before push, I believe) to be concerned with so I called scheduling and they said no flags were showing up and I was good to do the trip. I guess I was, but this post made me think of it again. Does the MAX DUTY DAY (even going past 2 hrs) not apply to Reserves?
You are confusing Whitlow with the contract. Your duty day contractually always starts at the report of your trip. Whitlow is a add on rule as a result of the American Accident in Little Rock. It requires that in any 24 hour period you can look back and find 8 hours of rest from any company requirements including answering the phone on reserve. That limits reserve to 16 hours max as a practical matter. Whitlow does not apply to international.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
You have training?
Yep! That's why. They can fix the glitch then.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
I live in West Texas and have my house for sale. I still plan to move to MSP. Is commuting a choice for me? House has been on the market 2 years well below appraised value.
Yes commuting is still a choice because if you just had bought your house in MSP before you got hired then you wouldn't have had this problem. Which is true for anyone contemplating interviewing with Delta, you need to purchase your house now in the base you hope to get.

Although, I was told the other day living in base is a choice or something because if you get MD'd off your equipment to a smaller paying one then that's your fault for not commuting to a higher paying one. So commuting or not commuting is a choice and will be used against you in whatever way is necessary to the it's all your fault narrative.

So just remember, going to work is a choice. You choose to do it. And everything that happens after that is all your fault.

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Old 07-02-2012, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Yep! That's why. They can fix the glitch then.
No, its correct. Under the new scheduling rules your projection or guarantee is reduced by vacation training etc. What you see is your guarantee there minus those two reserve days that you will be in training; pro ratta. They are correct.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You are confusing Whitlow with the contract. Your duty day contractually always starts at the report of your trip. Whitlow is a add on rule as a result of the American Accident in Little Rock. It requires that in any 24 hour period you can look back and find 8 hours of rest from any company requirements including answering the phone on reserve. That limits reserve to 16 hours max as a practical matter. Whitlow does not apply to international.
True. And from what I have seen, the computers do not have whitlow programming for reserves. You are on your own to keep yourself out of trouble. Same thing has happened to me more than once.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:38 AM
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Being the second day under this contract, why is the old contract still on the DELTAnet homepage?
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