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Old 06-29-2012, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude

I would imagine that they already have their pass and fail press releases ready to go.
If that's not telling of how divisive this whole thing has been, nothing is.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Yes, I changed from no to yes yesterday. Here's why:

1. This is the first management team that I've respected and been proud of. I like the way they're doing things. At least to this point. I'm willing to give them my vote for more success. I may regret that but, right now, I'm in. I'm not a rube. I've been in a lot of different organizations. These guys actually want to run a successful airline. Me too.

2. If our NC came to us with this TA, what makes me think this same team can go back to the table and get anything better? Nothing. We're out-gunned if that's the scenario. I'm not cool with starting all over with a new team and, I'm sorry, DPA is DOA.

3. This TA is for three years. It's essentially an extension. The mere fact that the company came to us and pushed this through means that something bigger is up. And soon. I'll bite my tongue, fly my jet and be an amazingly loyal employee. I'm a big picture guy. Somethings up. We'll be back at the table soon. Until then, I'm an expectant and semi-happy camper.

4. Finally, I see this, after serious review, as being a short term scope gain. I'm a football fan. When the climate is bad and you can't throw it deep for the big score, you grind it out on the ground. The current economic environment is like Lambeau Field in January. If its cold and the winds are swirling, you run the ball and dump it off for short gains. Ironically, that's how SWA has done it. We can all learn that lesson and not bank our hopes on a Hail Mary. Plus, as an LA guy, the fact that we're reclaiming 15% of the code share from AK makes me cautiously optimistic.

I'm voting yes after weeks of study, being ****ed off, and talking to reps and fellow pilots. This is a win, not a grand slam, but a win. I'm in.

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Welcome aboard Buzz. I'm pretty sure thats what I've been blabbering about for a week or so.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
That's what I'm waiting to see. Something big is in the offing and the company will have to come back to us. If this thing passes, and I think it will, we'll have another chance to engage soon.
let me guess, you talked to someone, "in the know", and this is how they convinced you to vote yes. "you can't tell anyone","you didn't hear it from me".

We will get em next time, good plan.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
I wake up this morning and there's pictures of male strippers on the L&G thread.
This day is not going to end well.
Yeah, what the flaperon just happened? I asked for scantily clad WOMEN not guys with my Navy hat on.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:44 AM
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If this TA passes and its a big money saving contract and win for the company, then the DAL stock should shoot way up. I have the stock board up and running. Unless ALPA waits until every vote is in and then hits the enter key, they already know what the results are. I hope they aren't like the SC and drag out the results. Inquiring minds want to know.

P.S. 7 minutes to go and the stock is actually down.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by cni187
Yeah their people have been polishing them up all week. Just like an OPR was passed from squad to grp to wing to squad to grp etc etc etc until we wanted to burn it.
...and the finished product had zero connection to reality. Been there, done that. One of the many reasons to celebrate military retirement. That, and never having to use power point.
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:00 AM
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actually, ALPA would be in big trouble if they knew what the results are before 10am and they have emphatically said so.
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:01 AM
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now they know.
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:03 AM
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Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:03 AM
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2 part question....

Does vacation time credit towards max reserve time?

If you are assigned short call and you are 1 hour shy of the max reserve, can they make you fly?
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