Boomer

If you think that's funny, go back a zillion pages to my post on why Shatner and Takei have different opinions on hard landings. I bring it up every 6 months until Carl gets me hired.

Thanks; and FYI - I cut about 70% of the really funny stuff just in case Anderson knows who I am.

Boomer

I'll save you the trouble:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ha...sponse-14.html

I crack me up. Of course now I'm laughing so hard, it won't be the dog that rats me out when I go to bed tonight.

forgot to bid

Waves, this is what you posted:

I agree, but let’s not forget, all of your profits should go to your driver. He doesn't really care if you should ever need to replace your car in the future. He is not concerned about operating costs or competition in the workforce. After all, that’s your problem isn’t it? He also doesn't care that you have other employees and other debt to pay. The hell with them all. After all, he didn’t make any of those business decisions required to run the company. Especially the bad decisions. He just expects to take advantage of all the good decisions. The bad decisions you should be willing to eat. After all, if it weren't for him, you wouldn't even own a car. “Yeah, that’s it. That’s the Ticket. And my Wife, Morgan Fairchild, no Cindy Crawford, Yeah, that’s it.”

or in other words:


When I flew corporate I saw what a really bad attitude towards your employees, i.e. pilots, can cost financially. [Aircraft] Owners want to nickle and dime them wherever they could with a QOL nobody in their right mind would accept and they were genuinely stunned when the pilots walked out of the door. And they had no idea that finding a pilot would take a while. Nor that training would cost $30K and another month and half of down time. NOr that the new pilot would not be up to speed in procedures, norms and their personal preferences. That in the meantime no body was monitoring the airplane's needs. That the millions (and I mean millions) that some pilots made their owners in charter revenue would be lost if the new pilot was incapable of meeting those goals. That the new pilot due to workload and stress could damage equipment and/or the airplane. And that the cost to firing the pilot would be high as you repeat that whole cycle and lost income opportunities. All because the boss wanted to cut a few hundred dollars here or there, stiff the pilot on something or deny a weekend off in advance because last month you hardly used them and you might want to use them this month. At the least, you'll tell them to wait at the airport for you and never show. Just to make sure the employee knew who the boss was.

Those pilots are chauffeurs, and Waves, what you wrote reminded me so much of what I saw on the other side of the fence.

forgot to bid

Big fluffy pillows on the floor and the dog is no longer an issue.

Also, roll on top of him a couple of times and he gives up on the idea of sleeping anywhere near you.

buzzpat

Yes, I changed from no to yes yesterday. Here's why:

1. This is the first management team that I've respected and been proud of. I like the way they're doing things. At least to this point. I'm willing to give them my vote for more success. I may regret that but, right now, I'm in. I'm not a rube. I've been in a lot of different organizations. These guys actually want to run a successful airline. Me too.

2. If our NC came to us with this TA, what makes me think this same team can go back to the table and get anything better? Nothing. We're out-gunned if that's the scenario. I'm not cool with starting all over with a new team and, I'm sorry, DPA is DOA.

3. This TA is for three years. It's essentially an extension. The mere fact that the company came to us and pushed this through means that something bigger is up. And soon. I'll bite my tongue, fly my jet and be an amazingly loyal employee. I'm a big picture guy. Somethings up. We'll be back at the table soon. Until then, I'm an expectant and semi-happy camper.

4. Finally, I see this, after serious review, as being a short term scope gain. I'm a football fan. When the climate is bad and you can't throw it deep for the big score, you grind it out on the ground. The current economic environment is like Lambeau Field in January. If its cold and the winds are swirling, you run the ball and dump it off for short gains. Ironically, that's how SWA has done it. We can all learn that lesson and not bank our hopes on a Hail Mary. Plus, as an LA guy, the fact that we're reclaiming 15% of the code share from AK makes me cautiously optimistic.

I'm voting yes after weeks of study, being ****ed off, and talking to reps and fellow pilots. This is a win, not a grand slam, but a win. I'm in.

Buzz

80ktsClamp

Geez, buzz... are you that depressed from a certain decision from a certain court that may or may not have happened today and probably doesn't have anything to do with politics of any sort?

Boomer

First Clamp, and now you Buzz? Something about this TA is making everyone pop out the babies.

forgot to bid

Well, tis the night before the vote is over and that means picture time!

buzzpat

Nah, while that was in fact disturbing, it was Ann Curry leaving the Today Show that pushed me over the edge. She just couldn't carry that ball across the goal line. Bastards.

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