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Old 06-27-2012, 02:34 PM
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Not sure if any of you have seen this but...

Delta Air Lines could save $473M with new pilot contract - Washington Business Journal

"Delta Air Lines could save $473M with new pilot contract"
This is why 2 weeks ago, I changed my description of this TA from "Cost Neutral" to "Cost Positive" for management.

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Old 06-27-2012, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Funny thing is, when I make that recommendation, most every pilot says that SWA or FDX is definitely their first choice.

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Not SWA any more. The bottom SWA guys are complaining about very long upgrades in the future due to the younger AirTran guys getting ahead of them in their SLI.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
You have to remember how old Carl is. Way back in the stone age airline pilots flew mail. They navigated by bonfires and the mark one eyeball. Someone got the bright idea to put some passengers on the mailbags. Young Carl's boss bought a bunch of surplus WWI airplanes to cash in on the demand the self loading freight brought. Self loading freight = people.

At this time young Carl had a bad case of WPS. WPS stands for wooden prop syndrome and is similar to shiny jet syndrome that we have today. Carl sold his little sister to some sweat shop for flight lessons. He was soon hired to fly that cool plane with two wings.

Unfortunately those passengers didn't like to travel year round. Poor Carl's first furlough happened in September of 1937. Right after the summer rush. He was so devastated he almost quit flying. Instead he got a job selling Model A Fords at the local dealer. This boom and bust, fly the summer, furlough through the winter cycle lasted five years. By this time Carl accumulated enough time to move on to the big show.......monoplanes!!!!



While I don't know Carl's real story I do know there are many crummy flying jobs out there where the bottom third are furloughed each fall. I'm sure hard work along with a little luck has gotten him where he is today. Enjoy the 747 and retire when your ready Carl. In the meantime, does anyone have Tanya Hardings number? I'm sure she could use a few bucks wacking our senior pilots ankles. She could help with our career stagnation problem! Hahaha

Now that is one damn funny post! But without outing myself, yes indeed my furloughs were seasonal that was typical back in the 70's.

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Old 06-27-2012, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly782
I understand it was alot different back then but I am curious if it was Northwest, because that would be complete BS. I am just trying to figure the guy out, especially with his DPA agenda. The 5 in 5 seems like an attempt to solidify his position on having the JR guys backs and knowing what career stagnation is like at DAL. I am just curious if it is truth or not. If it was somewhere else I apologize for the questioning.
No. NWA was my third airline.

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Old 06-27-2012, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
I think most fNWA pilots like this mgt better. My point was simply that 5 furloughs in 25 or so years is in the realm of possibility.
It's the same management.

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Old 06-27-2012, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
So the world economy is crashing, delta is posting a loss, and yet, I'm being told to vote yes for this TA because we're going to grow mainline anywhere from 70 to 110 jets!

Even with DCI 450/325, that's a huge jump in ASMs.
I'm certainly NOT telling or even advising you to vote yes. I'm just splainin why I'm voting yes.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:53 PM
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I don't know about you but I will be glad when FRI is here and gone!
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Now that is one damn funny post! But without outing myself, yes indeed my furloughs were seasonal that was typical back in the 70's.

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Damn Carl, You've been flying with the airlines since the 70's? I was still in high school. You must have gotten hired in your teens. No wonder your a 744 Captain. Good on ya. Man I should have skipped the military and gone civilian. I'd be an A-380 Captain soon. We're getting those with this TA right? Oh, not A-380's, 380 more 76 seaters. I got it now.

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Old 06-27-2012, 02:58 PM
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BTW: What do you guys want to talk about after this thing passes? Just wondering. Dig dig
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Originally Posted by Waves
BTW: What do you guys want to talk about after this thing passes? Just wondering.
Back to chicks and football. Can't frikkin wait!!
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