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Old 06-27-2012, 08:39 AM
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Not sure if any of you have seen this but...

Delta Air Lines could save $473M with new pilot contract - Washington Business Journal

"Delta Air Lines could save $473M with new pilot contract"
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Don't know...but I was told we turned down "a few more percentage points" in pay rates to keep the seat limit at 76.
I think that would be considered negotiating.
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Waves
I think that would be considered negotiating.
What a novel concept. 51% or bust...

That's a professional negotiating strategy right there. Like a skilled marksman.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
So, you make a 6 seat distinction.

The 6 seat distinction is already in the current PWA. Mgmt has to park 70 seaters to add more 76 seaters, but to do it, they have to grow mainline significantly. Enter the GROWTH (as opposed to replacement 717).

They want to park 50 seaters and say to do this basically they have to buy bigger Canadairs...WE HAVE CRJ-900 payrates in OUR current contract.

There is still time to change your vote to a NO...For you waves, why interrupt a string of easy to spell votes ...no, two letters.

Likely plan B for DAL...

Buy 717s
Buy CRJ-900s flown by DAL pilots
Park 50s
Grow mainline - add DCI 76 seaters - park DCI 70 seaters.
Inflation tracking bankruptcy/merger payrates.
Section 6 opened on time with an already mutually agreed to timeframe for seeking joint mediation in april 2013. THIS time with a Strike Preparedness Committee fully spooled up.
6 shortcalls.
alv remains the same, reserves turn into pumpkins 2 hours prior.

Enn Oh, its easy to spell, N O
The Chance brothers; Fat and Slim. All these things you wrote are great but I'll bet a months pay we don't even get close. PM me if you're interested
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Don't know...but I was told we turned down "a few more percentage points" in pay rates to keep the seat limit at 76.
I dont doubt that.

But then how much of our raise was because we allowed them to swap unwanted 50 seaters for more 76 seaters without having to park 70 seaters nor have anything tied to mainline growth first?

I hope that number was 0 because I'd hate to think scope is for sale.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
So, you make a 6 seat distinction.

The 6 seat distinction is already in the current PWA. Mgmt has to park 70 seaters to add more 76 seaters, but to do it, they have to grow mainline significantly. Enter the GROWTH (as opposed to replacement 717).

They want to park 50 seaters and say to do this basically they have to buy bigger Canadairs...WE HAVE CRJ-900 payrates in OUR current contract.

There is still time to change your vote to a NO...For you waves, why interrupt a string of easy to spell votes ...no, two letters.

Likely plan B for DAL...

Buy 717s
Buy CRJ-900s flown by DAL pilots
Park 50s
Grow mainline - add DCI 76 seaters - park DCI 70 seaters.
Inflation tracking bankruptcy/merger payrates.
Section 6 opened on time with an already mutually agreed to timeframe for seeking joint mediation in april 2013. THIS time with a Strike Preparedness Committee fully spooled up.
6 shortcalls.
alv remains the same, reserves turn into pumpkins 2 hours prior.

Enn Oh, its easy to spell, N O
For plan B to work they would have to buy Pinnacle and shut it down to get full relief from all the 50 seaters. Problem with that is we have scope language that Lee Moak signed that prevents that from happening. So either DALPA gives up the 76 seat jets in a LOA or they face a DFR from the 9E pilots.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Waves
First of all, I don’t have mine.
I feel your pain


BTW: Thankfully you can’t blame me for the 50 seater issue because I voted NO for everything.
Ha!

We'll have to agree to disagree on some other points.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Waves
I will concede they have definitely pushed the envelope with the addition of more 76 seaters.


Come on Waves......you're almost there.....
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:15 AM
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I voted against the TA on day 1, read everything ALPA published, and I never even considered changing my vote. I've been a no voter since the day I read that first notepad.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:24 AM
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A NC that was SERIOUS about holding the line or improving scope (and empowered by the MEC to do so) would have simply walked out the first day when the 82 seaters were mentioned, and simply said "call us when you want to talk".

Instead it was left on the table, giving credibility to the company's postion.

You have ask yourself "why?".

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