Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-15-2012, 09:07 AM
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06-15-2012, 09:25 AM
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I just want to say something... I flew an MD-90 yesterday with a bi-folding first class lav door.
I told everyone here at the house.
Nobody cared. Someone needs to share in my joy.
I told everyone here at the house.
Nobody cared. Someone needs to share in my joy.
06-15-2012, 09:30 AM
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06-15-2012, 09:36 AM
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It's fairly obvious that, before the merger, the Delta guys and the Northwest guys had a radically different approach to labor relations. Despite that, it doesn't seem like we had radically different contracts. It's tough to make the case that one approach is more effective than the other.
Carl
06-15-2012, 09:53 AM
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For how many hours? At 5:15/day that's an 84 hour line at a minimum.
They won't be able to force you over your 84 hour line, even at the highest ALV of the year. DPA doesn't change under the TA. ADG is added for the rare 88 day with a DH only. How exactly will you be working more that you currently are? Also, you'll be paid more than 20% more (88 guys get the extra bump to 90 pay) for that 84 hours in 2.5 years.
Here's a simple math exercise:
84 hour line at $100.14/hr (5 year 88 FO - current contract) = $8,411.76
84 hour line at $123.36/hr (still 5 year 88 FO - TA on 1/1/2015) = $10,362.24
I didn't include longevity steps for this pilot to keep it apples-to-apples. The difference = $1950.48/month
So you will be working the same number of days (to get the same monthly line) for nearly an extra $2000/month in 2.5 years. This is on the 2nd smallest paying aircraft we have.
I'm still failing to see what you're concerned with?? If you want to work a little less, then bid a lower time line - same as today.
They won't be able to force you over your 84 hour line, even at the highest ALV of the year. DPA doesn't change under the TA. ADG is added for the rare 88 day with a DH only. How exactly will you be working more that you currently are? Also, you'll be paid more than 20% more (88 guys get the extra bump to 90 pay) for that 84 hours in 2.5 years.
Here's a simple math exercise:
84 hour line at $100.14/hr (5 year 88 FO - current contract) = $8,411.76
84 hour line at $123.36/hr (still 5 year 88 FO - TA on 1/1/2015) = $10,362.24
I didn't include longevity steps for this pilot to keep it apples-to-apples. The difference = $1950.48/month
So you will be working the same number of days (to get the same monthly line) for nearly an extra $2000/month in 2.5 years. This is on the 2nd smallest paying aircraft we have.
I'm still failing to see what you're concerned with?? If you want to work a little less, then bid a lower time line - same as today.
06-15-2012, 10:03 AM
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06-15-2012, 10:07 AM
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I don't think he was referring to reserve. A reserve guy wouldn't know if he's working 16 days next month, he'd only know if he's on call for 16 days. And technically it's 18 days, unless he has a planned absence.
06-15-2012, 10:09 AM
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06-15-2012, 10:25 AM
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06-15-2012, 10:30 AM
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Just a few more questions for those "in the know."
1.) Didn't the company announce pay raises for other employee groups earlier this year/late last year?
2.) If so, were these pay raises forecast to be as "cost neutral/paid for" for the company as our TA is?
1.) Didn't the company announce pay raises for other employee groups earlier this year/late last year?
2.) If so, were these pay raises forecast to be as "cost neutral/paid for" for the company as our TA is?
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