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Old 06-12-2012, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Yep. That is what I said. Too many pilots that strongly dislike the majority of the agreement but have decided to vote "yes" because they have admitted they are risk adverse. That's their call.

If it fails I will be floored.

*There are some that do not like it at all, but fear the team in place will do worse so they will vote yes, and see it as a win that we only lost so much. No I am not kidding. I had two guys tell me that. Its their choice and see their logic but disagree with it.
I agree 100%. This board is an incredibly small fraction of our pilot group. Many will view this TA as a victory, and many who are on the fence will be pushed to a YES vote by ALPA. ALPA has been spinning things positive for years. They're experts at it.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I agree 100%. This board is an incredibly small fraction of our pilot group. Many will view this TA as a victory, and many who are on the fence will be pushed to a YES vote by ALPA. ALPA has been spinning things positive for years. They're experts at it.
It's one of the few areas they are truly good at.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by orvil
It's not Naval Air, so who cares?
Can I get a halleluiah!
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
This is a C-141!

That is a C-5!

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Old 06-12-2012, 04:23 PM
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Came across this little snippet today:

Delta has agreed to extend Pinnacle’s CRJ200 contract by four and a half years, which means it will be saddled with 145 50-seaters that it takes great pains to declare are uneconomical until 2022.
The end game in 2015 is supposed to be 125 50-seaters.
This would put the Pinnacle CRJ200 operation alone at well over the 125 cap and over the projected timeline by over four years..

Things that make you go Hmmmm

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Old 06-12-2012, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Q3 There is a rumor that Delta will trade 737-900s for B-717s. Is it true?
A3 No, that rumor is false. Delta will take the first delivery of the 737-900s in late 2013 as planned,
and there is no change to the delivery schedule moving forward.

How about 737-800 slots?

bump...putting my head back in the sand.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
Came across this little snippet today:



The end game in 2015 is supposed to be 125 50-seaters.
This would put the Pinnacle CRJ200 operation alone at well over the 125 cap and over the projected timeline by over four years..

Things that make you go Hmmmm

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So, what you are saying is that pinnacle is the sacrificial lamb. Or are you saying pinnacle is exclusive?

Methinks sacrificial.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
Came across this little snippet today:



The end game in 2015 is supposed to be 125 50-seaters.
This would put the Pinnacle CRJ200 operation alone at well over the 125 cap and over the projected timeline by over four years..

Things that make you go Hmmmm

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That doesn't sound good for ASA and SKW.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1

So, what you are saying is that pinnacle is the sacrificial lamb. Or are you saying pinnacle is exclusive?

Methinks sacrificial.
They're in bankruptcy. They're the sacrificial lamb.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
So, what you are saying is that pinnacle is the sacrificial lamb. Or are you saying pinnacle is exclusive?

Methinks sacrificial.
The first thing that struck me is why Delta would in Pinnacle's Bankruptcy proceedings extend the 50-seater contract from 2015 to 2022.

That leads to thinking Pinnacle is the sacrificial lamb.

If Pinnacle is the sacrificial lamb and their CRJ200 operation is bound to be eliminated, we would go from 343 to 200 CRJ200 just like that.

That's what Mesa did in Bankruptcy, going from 130 to 76 and eliminating all CRJ200 except for the six in Hawaii for go!

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