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Old 06-11-2012, 06:54 AM
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Non-rev question.

If you use an S2 pass and have two flights on the same day, but don't book them in travelnet together do you use up two S2 passes, or just the one?

I looked on the travelnet page, FAQ, etc, but no joy.

Thanks ahead of time for anyone who knows.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
Hey Denny! The Mountain is out!

Hopefully movement soon so I wont have to commute everytime it does appear!

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FIIG,

Yes! It's going to be a gorgeous day out today! This is why we live in the PNW. Unfortunately, I have to leave on a three day this afternoon.

I hope you can get in here soon!! Not having to commute is AWESOME!!!

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Old 06-11-2012, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Slow, the DALPA FAQ show a loss of 300 jobs. There have been some reps that state its 340. The FAQ does not stipulate what the loss is from.

These vacation changes are great and very positive. IMO, that still does not make up for the other changes to the work rules.
I have a hunch it is higher.

Back to our salesman analogy, if the car salesman openly tells you in his pitch that the transmission has some issues, it means that transmission is bad.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
Non-rev question.

If you use an S2 pass and have two flights on the same day, but don't book them in travelnet together do you use up two S2 passes, or just the one?

I looked on the travelnet page, FAQ, etc, but no joy.

Thanks ahead of time for anyone who knows.
As long as they start on the same day, it should only count as one. Essentially they are S-2 days. If they take two S-2 pass days, call up the pass bureau.

Just to make it less of a chance, I would just modify the current listing to include your other flights.

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Old 06-11-2012, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
Non-rev question.

If you use an S2 pass and have two flights on the same day, but don't book them in travelnet together do you use up two S2 passes, or just the one?

I looked on the travelnet page, FAQ, etc, but no joy.

Thanks ahead of time for anyone who knows.
S2's are by the calendar day not per flight, so you should be okay. Now I see that Denny beat me to it. As if it matters, I concur with Denny.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
They beat me to it!!!

But also the requirement to staff more summer vacation weeks will very much lead to higher staffing as more guys will be taking a trip or two off during the peak flying. A small category that adds 1 slot each week over just one summer month will cause 98 credit hours of flying to be left uncovered, that is more than 1 Capt could cover, which at minimum causes the company to staff for 2 more Capt slots, (then double it for the FO seat too). Imagine in categories where they have to add 3-6 MORE slots each week during the summer! Staffing increases for everyone. We have almost 70 categories at Delta, that adds up to a lot more positions (if you agress with the "Delta staffs for Jul/Aug" theory)

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Why wasn't this highlighted more. Now I know my rep said the work rules will cost us 300 jobs, but maybe he was just talking about the higher reserve guarantee.

Thanks for answering!
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
A reserve is now full at "his" guarantee, not "the" guarantee. All known absences are figured into the guarantee calculation. For example, let's assume an ALV of 77+30, which would yield a reserve guarantee of 75+30. A pilot has one week of vacation during the month worth 22+45 under the TA.

(75+30)-(22+45)= 52+45 for "his" reserve guarantee. He would be full when he reached that. Today he can be flown all the way up to 75+30.
What about the ALV +15 in the TA? That isn't a factor?
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
A reserve is now full at "his" guarantee, not "the" guarantee. All known absences are figured into the guarantee calculation. For example, let's assume an ALV of 77+30, which would yield a reserve guarantee of 75+30. A pilot has one week of vacation during the month worth 22+45 under the TA.

(75+30)-(22+45)= 52+45 for "his" reserve guarantee. He would be full when he reached that. Today he can be flown all the way up to 75+30.
I know this is an extreme example, but I'm just trying to make sure I understand this new rule.

If said reserve pilot is at 52+44, could he be assigned a trip that would cause him to exceed "his" guarantee? Or is done?

Also, if a reserve has no known absences for the month then in your example he would be subject to 75+30. So if he is at 75+29, can he be assigned a trip that would take him to 92+30?
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:42 AM
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What he is saying is under the TA whatever your guarantee is (not alv-2) that shows on your sked is where you are done. With two weeks of vacation it could be in the 30's.
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:49 AM
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Slow if you have a projection of 40 and have flown a five hr turn could they hit you for a trip that goes to ALV+15. Ala, ALV 74 and you have flown 5 and get a 82 hr 12 day trip to get you to 87 hrs of credit plus vacation pay with no credit?

The way I read that guarantee is projection but ALV and ALV+15 still stand.
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