Originally Posted by nwaf16dude

There's a new negotiator's notepad about scope up on the alpa web site.

Originally Posted by georgetg

Ok slow, so now you are mixing in the concept of airframes, let me see if I understand:

Current DCI fleet 598
Current DCI block hour index = 1

Current mainline fleet 618
Current MBH to DBH ratio 1.19 to 1

Endgame DCI fleet 450
Endgame DCI block hour index = 1

Endgame mainline fleet?
Endgame mainline block-hour ratio to DCI block-hour ratio 1.56 to 1

Percentage reduction in DCI fleet 24.7%

If DCI flies a smaller fleet with no reduction in block hours, we haven't really "taken back flying to mainline." All we got is more large DCI jets producing the same number of block hours, generating more ASMs.

We will have modernized and upgauged the DCI fleet, increased DCI ASM production at a lower cost, with a smaller number of jets, but we will not have "reduced DCI flying."

If on the other hand the smaller DCI fleet results in the reduction of block hours at DCI, that will affect the DBH.

If DCI block hours are reduced by 24.7% after all 717 and 76-seaters are delivered, the ratio of 1.56 will result in a guarantee of 2% fewer mainline bloch hours than our current 1.19 ratio produces

Cheers
George

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Does that include the 300 jobs lost through the new reserve work rules?

Originally Posted by Denny Crane

Or the 300 estimated early retirements? Gotta throw in the good with the bad!!

Denny

Originally Posted by More Bacon

Nothing about the RAH cutout.

Completely disingenuous.

Originally Posted by Denny Crane

George,

In reference to the bolded above. Okay I'll agree that we have not "taken back flying to mainline" from DCI if their block hours remain the same.....But if DCI block hours stay the same (albiet with a more modern fleet) have not mainline block hours increased significantly because of the ratio now required? There by requiring more jobs?

Denny

Originally Posted by Denny Crane

Or the 300 estimated early retirements? Gotta throw in the good with the bad!!

Denny

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Denny, Keep in mind that jobs given up to work rules tend to be permanent. Jobs gained via a early retirement are temporary. If 300 pilots retire early and on average they would have retired in the next 12 months anyway you gain is over a very small time frame. The 300 jobs lost to work rules stay gone. The ER program is not a offset to work rule changes.

Originally Posted by rvr350

Just a very simple question, not intended to be flamebait. Why is all the notepad handing out is only talking what this TA is able to achieve, but never talks about things that the survey represented? Every notepad thus far ends with the sentence, "we urge you to vote YES to ratifying this TA". When i talked to my reps, never have they imply what I should vote.

I am the kind of person when you only give me the 100 good things about a product, makes me want to delve deeper to find out what is the true intention and the 101 bad things in what they are trying to sell to me.