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Old 05-27-2012, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Kargo
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Does anyone know what the life span of the 88 is? I.e. when will that fateful "heavycheck" park it in the desert. I saw in section one where they get to run the 76 seaters up to 223 for 1.25 mainline narrow bodies, but didn't see anything about those 76 seaters being parked if we lose other narrow bodies. Like the 9s they'll park as soon as we get the 717s.

I did read the block hour thing, but IMO the RJs should be tied to our narrow body fleet.

Another thing thats probably already been talked about; I read that if they acquire another airline we have to combine our lists if we want them to operate as a single carrier. Doesn't this mean they can buy whoever they want and we can't do much to discourage it? Isn't merging with another really young pilot group going to hamper our carriers more than anything else?

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Go back and look at the Fall 09 UpFront article on the 88s lifespan. They put it at 110,000 to 150,000 cycles or about 20-30 more years on them or they're at their half life right now. I don't know about heavy checks but I know the corporate airplane I ran had 4 years between the big heavy inspections. The problem is as time goes on that 4 year span changes and becomes less and less.

Of course they'll also need the avionics upgrades to continue and hopefully the fuel economy doesn't bite it because frankly, they're fun airplanes to fly.

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A vote to outsource 70 more 76 seat jets is a vote to outsource 2 more Compass sized airlines.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
ALFA and Slow;

I'll go with FTBs numbers - unless you show us the "real" numbers...Oh yeah, you signed a non-disclosure agreement. Put the numbers up or stay distanced from those you are supposed to represent. We already know how you chose. FTBs numbers are certainly close enough for real comparison and we all know it...so please quit saying we don't.
In a previous response you posted perfectly

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You can choose to believe whatever you want, but you poison the (reasoning) pool if you put your hope and theory out there as fact.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:03 PM
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One of the advantages of working for a large union .
Does any one else have a problem with this?
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
In a previous response you posted perfectly

Yes, I did and another fact is that the company's savings to avoid doing heavy maintenance on the 50 seaters was not monetized in our cost neutral 3 year bankruptcy extension TA.

"We heard you loud and clear."

"We won't rush..."

The spin machine, funded by Delta paid FPL, is in full force.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:07 PM
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The way slowplay keeps using scambo's post as a signature...even when it doesn't make any sense to do so, I realize who slowplay really is! He's the cartoon copilot/F15 pilot from "the zoo".

LOGBOOK!

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Old 05-27-2012, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
One of the advantages of working for a large union is...
Originally Posted by texavia
Does any one else have a problem with this?
You noticed that too eh? I don't think it was a Freudian slip either.

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Old 05-27-2012, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by texavia
Does any one else have a problem with this?
What, you'd rather your E&FA department only have access to one set of numbers provided by management? I much prefer that our pilot group is supported by a team with access throughout the industry allowing them to crosscheck the data they get.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
What, you'd rather your E&FA department only have access to one set of numbers provided by management? I much prefer that our pilot group is supported by a team with access throughout the industry allowing them to crosscheck the data they get.

Its just too bad DALPA doesn't use the data to the pilots benefit.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
What, you'd rather your E&FA department only have access to one set of numbers provided by management? I much prefer that our pilot group is supported by a team with access throughout the industry allowing them to crosscheck the data they get.
You're still missing it.

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Old 05-27-2012, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Its just too bad DALPA doesn't use the data to the pilots benefit.
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