Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-24-2012, 07:11 AM
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Airline profits are forecast to be 55% higher in 2012, and 40% higher in 2013. I like 15% profit sharing!
Analysts Raise Airline Estimates Across the Board - TheStreet
Analysts Raise Airline Estimates Across the Board - TheStreet
05-24-2012, 07:17 AM
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Airline profits are forecast to be 55% higher in 2012, and 40% higher in 2013. I like 15% profit sharing!
Analysts Raise Airline Estimates Across the Board - TheStreet
Analysts Raise Airline Estimates Across the Board - TheStreet
Elvis;
Personal question: Is any further debate required on this thing?
Let's all just go back to L&G with copious underboob.
05-24-2012, 07:21 AM
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05-24-2012, 07:24 AM
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Geeze,
I just looked at section 14. I can't believe I have to write about this, too. You are right. The only thing I disagree with you is where you say I will want to verify every sickness. Because, at the end of the day, it looks to me like the chief pilot, can ask you to verify your sickness anytime they have a good faith reason to question the medical use of your sick time, regardless of the amount of sick time you have verified for the year.
Look at section (14.F.4). (Putting it in practical terms
If a pilot calls in sick during or near a holiday or near his vacation, he or she will be required to state the nature of his or her sickness to a chief pilot, who then may require him or her to provide a doctors note verifying his illness.
Note: It doesn't matter how many times the pilot has called in sick or how many sick hours the pilot has used.
Hey. Didn't the union say they got rid of this? I know I saw it somewhere.....
Slow, am I reading this wrong?
I just looked at section 14. I can't believe I have to write about this, too. You are right. The only thing I disagree with you is where you say I will want to verify every sickness. Because, at the end of the day, it looks to me like the chief pilot, can ask you to verify your sickness anytime they have a good faith reason to question the medical use of your sick time, regardless of the amount of sick time you have verified for the year.
Look at section (14.F.4). (Putting it in practical terms
If a pilot calls in sick during or near a holiday or near his vacation, he or she will be required to state the nature of his or her sickness to a chief pilot, who then may require him or her to provide a doctors note verifying his illness.
Note: It doesn't matter how many times the pilot has called in sick or how many sick hours the pilot has used.
Hey. Didn't the union say they got rid of this? I know I saw it somewhere.....
Slow, am I reading this wrong?
New, go back and read my post right before yours, I've edited to explain the pressure to get your illness verified. Thanks...
05-24-2012, 07:40 AM
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05-24-2012, 07:41 AM
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Carl
05-24-2012, 07:56 AM
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I got you. But, I think the biggest heartache will occur from the note in part 4.
Prediction: Because of that note and the way I think the company will use it, you will have a lot more pilots showing up to work sick during and around the holidays.
But, like you said, the 100 hours/15 days provision is a biggie, too. I think it will effectively limit some of the widebody categories to one sick call a year before they are required to produce a note. Look at the 747-400 trips. Even a lot of the 777 trips are worth more than 50 hours.
Neither is good in my book.
I'm not one to advocate calling in sick when you are not sick. But, it's worse to have a pilot group that is worried about having to produce a doctors note, if they are legitimately sick.
05-24-2012, 08:03 AM
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I got you. But, I think the biggest heartache will occur from the note in part 4.
Prediction: Because of that note and the way I think the company will use it, you will have a lot more pilots showing up to work sick during and around the holidays.
But, like you said, the 100 hours/15 days provision is a biggie, too. I think it will effectively limit some of the widebody categories to one sick call a year before they are required to produce a note. Look at the 747-400 trips. Even a lot of the 777 trips are worth more than 50 hours.
Neither is good in my book.
I'm not one to advocate calling in sick when you are not sick. But, it's worse to have a pilot group that is worried about having to produce a doctors note, if they are legitimately sick.
Prediction: Because of that note and the way I think the company will use it, you will have a lot more pilots showing up to work sick during and around the holidays.
But, like you said, the 100 hours/15 days provision is a biggie, too. I think it will effectively limit some of the widebody categories to one sick call a year before they are required to produce a note. Look at the 747-400 trips. Even a lot of the 777 trips are worth more than 50 hours.
Neither is good in my book.
I'm not one to advocate calling in sick when you are not sick. But, it's worse to have a pilot group that is worried about having to produce a doctors note, if they are legitimately sick.
Thanks DALPA, for eliminating the SLMP and replacing it with this one, then lying to us about it. I can see now why we need to rush this agreement through.
No talk of this on the DALPA forum either, everyone is too busy trying to decide whether 12 percent is a raise or not. I'll wait for the retro check, thanks.
05-24-2012, 08:08 AM
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I got you. But, I think the biggest heartache will occur from the note in part 4.
Prediction: Because of that note and the way I think the company will use it, you will have a lot more pilots showing up to work sick during and around the holidays.
But, like you said, the 100 hours/15 days provision is a biggie, too. I think it will effectively limit some of the widebody categories to one sick call a year before they are required to produce a note. Look at the 747-400 trips. Even a lot of the 777 trips are worth more than 50 hours.
Neither is good in my book.
I'm not one to advocate calling in sick when you are not sick. But, it's worse to have a pilot group that is worried about having to produce a doctors note, if they are legitimately sick.
Prediction: Because of that note and the way I think the company will use it, you will have a lot more pilots showing up to work sick during and around the holidays.
But, like you said, the 100 hours/15 days provision is a biggie, too. I think it will effectively limit some of the widebody categories to one sick call a year before they are required to produce a note. Look at the 747-400 trips. Even a lot of the 777 trips are worth more than 50 hours.
Neither is good in my book.
I'm not one to advocate calling in sick when you are not sick. But, it's worse to have a pilot group that is worried about having to produce a doctors note, if they are legitimately sick.
05-24-2012, 08:12 AM
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Ha! I still laugh about that everything I think about it.
I'm still a narrow-body guy. I rarely get to fly the big jet. How's that French jet treating you?
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