Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-21-2012, 08:33 PM
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05-21-2012, 08:43 PM
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There's a line of BS I've heard from the ALPA folks several times now, most recently in reply to an excellent series of queries from tsquare. They're claiming that this TA and the 76-seat scope relief contained within are the ONLY thing that can make DCI shrink (specifically, the 50 seaters) and that without this TA, there WILL be 300-some-odd 50 seaters still at DCI till the 2020s. Well, let's think about that, shall we?
05-21-2012, 08:46 PM
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I think you are reading that wrong. All of the ratios/airplanes/etc in Section 1 are tied to Category A (us) and Category C (DCI). Category B (Alaska outsourcing) is NOT included in any calculations. I think that means we are UNTIED to Alaska outsourcing. They can do as much of it as they want and, if I read between the lines correctly, we can use it as much as we want, also.
05-21-2012, 08:56 PM
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05-21-2012, 08:57 PM
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1 b 40?
Am I the only idiot who keeps scrolling back to find the oft-referenced section 1b40 and reading a definition of the "Mainland USA" (48 states! who'da thunk it?)
It's supposed to be 1b46, right? I guess we pressured 'em into releasing the dang thing before they had time to proof read it.
It's supposed to be 1b46, right? I guess we pressured 'em into releasing the dang thing before they had time to proof read it.
05-21-2012, 09:04 PM
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Dalpa got owned. No vote here.
If your stupid enough to send us scope concessions with the company making billions then your fired.
We didn't even get the carrot...(pay).....we just got the friggin stick.
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Oh...slapped a stamp on that dpa renewal card tonight!!!
If your stupid enough to send us scope concessions with the company making billions then your fired.
We didn't even get the carrot...(pay).....we just got the friggin stick.
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Oh...slapped a stamp on that dpa renewal card tonight!!!
05-21-2012, 09:04 PM
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(scotch, neat. sorry)
05-21-2012, 09:07 PM
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Baja.
05-21-2012, 09:10 PM
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In any event, it really isn't a pay raise. We are still tied to the PBS parameters. So, by making a particular rotation pay more, all it will do is maybe buy you a day or two off. Instead of getting a four day on your line to get your hours, you may only get a two day, for example.
05-21-2012, 09:19 PM
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Why give that up? Would we let DCI operate 99K lbs aircraft? If DL wants those at DPJ, we need to fly them. If attrition in the category and/or being able to hire who they want for those "ultra VIP/HVC" customers was the concern, we could address that with a longer training freeze for those who bid it as well as giving the company a choice in which seniority list pilots they choose to do it. But to give it up entirely, to a non union pilot group is insane. Those are our jets. We own that flying. We can be flexibile and work with the company on those, but giving it up is out of the question.
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