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Old 12-06-2022, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Vettekid
On my way home from a successful interview right now and just got the dreaded PARB email. Ugh.
There were two of us in my new hire class. It sucks, but keep a positive attitude and control what you can. Good Luck!
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Maybe you wear your politics on your sleeves a lot more than you realize, and the Delta shrink could recognize a nutcase a lot easier than you can see your own self? Lay on the couch and think about it for a bit, perhaps?
So you are saying this is actually a MEDICAL assessment, not a “fit in with the rest of the team” assessment? Because that would be illegal under the
ADA Amendment Act of 2008, which was specifically crafted to overturn Supreme Court cases that had permitted airlines to disqualify people for a disability that was not disqualifying to the FAA. In one of the cases - Sutton vs United Airlines, two pilots were disqualified because of their uncorrected visual acuity even though they corrected to FAA standards. SCOTUS found for UAL reasoning the two pilots had no disability so the ADA did not apply. That discrimination did not sit well with Congress and eventually led to the ADA Amendment Act, changing the law to make it illegal to refuse to hire someone because you BELIEVE they have a disability, whether they do or not.

How does the ADAAA define "regarded as" having a disability?

The ADAAA redefines and dramatically expands the scope of coverage under the "regarded as" prong of the definition of "disability." To satisfy the "regarded as" standard an individual need only show that he or she has been subjected to an action prohibited under the statute (e.g., termination; failure to hire) because of an actual or perceived impairment. It is no longer necessary that the impairment be perceived by the employer to limit or "substantially limit" a major life activity. However, to satisfy the "regarded as" standard, an impairment must not be one that is "transitory and minor." The ADAAA defines a "transitory" impairment as an impairment with an "actual or expected duration of 6 months or less."

Meeting the "regarded as" standard does not mean that a person has been the victim of unlawful discrimination. It means only that a person is an individual with a disability entitled to the protections of the ADA or Rehabilitation Act. Whether unlawful discrimination occurred is a separate determination.
If indeed this is found to be a medical assessment, it could open up the airline to a class action suit by everyone disqualified by the PARB.

And if they are picking on ex military attack pilots for being ex military attack pilots, that could get ugly fast too…
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
So you are saying this is actually a MEDICAL assessment, not a “fit in with the rest of the team” assessment? Because that would be illegal under the
ADA Amendment Act of 2008, which was specifically crafted to overturn Supreme Court cases that had permitted airlines to disqualify people for a disability that was not disqualifying to the FAA. In one of the cases - Sutton vs United Airlines, two pilots were disqualified because of their uncorrected visual acuity even though they corrected to FAA standards. SCOTUS found for UAL reasoning the two pilots had no disability so the ADA did not apply. That discrimination did not sit well with Congress and eventually led to the ADA Amendment Act, changing the law to make it illegal to refuse to hire someone because you BELIEVE they have a disability, whether they do or not.



If indeed this is found to be a medical assessment, it could open up the airline to a class action suit by everyone disqualified by the PARB.

And if they are picking on ex military attack pilots for being ex military attack pilots, that could get ugly fast too…
I thought Delta leaned towards hiring ex military attack pilots because they were military attack pilots? What changed?
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Old 12-06-2022, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SeamusTheHound
Maybe you wear your politics on your sleeves a lot more than you realize, and the Delta shrink could recognize a nutcase a lot easier than you can see your own self? Lay on the couch and think about it for a bit, perhaps?
you do realize that 71kilo hasn’t posted on here for many years, right?

vette, hang in there this season will pass soon.

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Old 12-06-2022, 08:43 PM
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“You don’t have to be crazy to work here, and in point of fact, can’t.”

(Keep fighting the good fight. The PARB gets reversed all the time.)
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Old 12-07-2022, 04:06 AM
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Thanks everyone, Judy venting a bit I guess. Strange thing is that I have done these before for a job in the Air Force and didn't have any issues. Guess they were looking for a different kind of crazy!

I'm assuming the email isn't something you can respond to, just to thank him for notifying me(trying to just be polite). It's from [email protected]
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Old 12-07-2022, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Vettekid
Thanks everyone, Judy venting a bit I guess. Strange thing is that I have done these before for a job in the Air Force and didn't have any issues. Guess they were looking for a different kind of crazy!

I'm assuming the email isn't something you can respond to, just to thank him for notifying me(trying to just be polite). It's from [email protected]
I went through this in August. It sure is a gut punch after the exhilaration of receiving the CJO. As hard as it is, try and put it in the back of your mind and don’t dwell on it. I was given the green light after two weeks. Best of luck, the odds are greatly in your favor.
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Old 12-07-2022, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Wipeout
I went through this in August. It sure is a gut punch after the exhilaration of receiving the CJO. As hard as it is, try and put it in the back of your mind and don’t dwell on it. I was given the green light after two weeks. Best of luck, the odds are greatly in your favor.
Same story, September interview, CJO, PARB’d while eating at TGIF in ATL airport. All clear after 12 days, which was excruciating but worth the wait. 85-90% pass rate, so just keep your head up!
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Same story, September interview, CJO, PARB’d while eating at TGIF in ATL airport. All clear after 12 days, which was excruciating but worth the wait. 85-90% pass rate, so just keep your head up!
Ha, oddly that's exactly where I was when I got the email!
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Ha, oddly that's exactly where I was when I got the email!
maybe it’s willingly choosing to eat at tgif atl that is the PARB trigger…?
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