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Old 07-29-2024, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis
but the rest of the people on reserve sit 6 SC a month, vs 2-3 that we do here.
Can only speak for my base/seat/fleet, but "the rest" aren't getting six. Six is now the cap. I've had 2 LC converted to SC in 4 months. Now that is extreme due to an over-staffing situation ATM. With some of our new options - pure SC for a min guarantee increase being attractive for the local guys, and pure long call supposedly being the first in the chute for trip assignments - it will be interesting to see how often traditional reserves are now converted to short call.
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Old 07-29-2024, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
What?! Why are you trying to give away 18 hour call out? This is a huge gain in QOL for a lot of commuters.

I commute and the new rules in our contract make reserve incredibly beneficial.
I think the union negotiated the 18 hrs and the 1 hr pay if converted, thinking the company would end up converting less because of it. But like someone else said, this was not the case and short call conversions are taken advantage of without worrying about the extra hour of pay at all.
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Old 07-29-2024, 03:00 PM
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If you are really getting SC 6x a month, go yellow slip the trips you want to fly and be awarded them early. Means there is plenty of open time. Go fly to ALV and be done on your terms vs what SC slams you with.
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Originally Posted by 60av8tor
Can only speak for my base/seat/fleet, but "the rest" aren't getting six. Six is now the cap. I've had 2 LC converted to SC in 4 months. Now that is extreme due to an over-staffing situation ATM. With some of our new options - pure SC for a min guarantee increase being attractive for the local guys, and pure long call supposedly being the first in the chute for trip assignments - it will be interesting to see how often traditional reserves are now converted to short call.
out of curiosity, what is the min guarantee increase if you agree to pure SC? Also is your SC at a fixed time or do you get assigned it each day?
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out of curiosity, what is the min guarantee increase if you agree to pure SC? Also is your SC at a fixed time or do you get assigned it each day?
Other airlines do fixed time. AM and PM reserves.
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Originally Posted by Machsp
Other airlines do fixed time. AM and PM reserves.
I know some do, but is that how United does it?

some airlines do fixed times all month, but I’m sure others do it like ours with multiple times.
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
out of curiosity, what is the min guarantee increase if you agree to pure SC? Also is your SC at a fixed time or do you get assigned it each day?
Don't quote me as I'm not a SC guy and haven't been paying the closest attention, but I believe it's 12 hours - from 73 to 85. It's also day by day. You start on long call - just like current rules - but can be converted unlimited times/month.

Really sketchy on this part, but I believe you can still pick up SC assignments if you'd like to try to control your RAP times.
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Originally Posted by 60av8tor
Don't quote me as I'm not a SC guy and haven't been paying the closest attention, but I believe it's 12 hours - from 73 to 85. It's also day by day. You start on long call - just like current rules - but can be converted unlimited times/month.

Really sketchy on this part, but I believe you can still pick up SC assignments if you'd like to try to control your RAP times.
thanks. Honestly that seems like a good deal. I think there are a lot of in base pilots who would do this for 12 hours a month extra. Especially if it were pay/no credit so we were still “full” at original reserve guarantee.
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Originally Posted by 60av8tor
Don't quote me as I'm not a SC guy and haven't been paying the closest attention, but I believe it's 12 hours - from 73 to 85. It's also day by day. You start on long call - just like current rules - but can be converted unlimited times/month.

Really sketchy on this part, but I believe you can still pick up SC assignments if you'd like to try to control your RAP times.
Just a single data point but 85 hours wouldn’t be worth it for me and I live in base. 18 hr callout means short calls get used more frequently, so not worth the squeeze for me. 90-100 hrs maybe.

On a different note, is the company still handing out 6 hour SC assignments? My last one was and my FO said he’d gotten one too. A fantastic change if they stick with it.
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Just a single data point but 85 hours wouldn’t be worth it for me and I live in base. 18 hr callout means short calls get used more frequently, so not worth the squeeze for me. 90-100 hrs maybe.

On a different note, is the company still handing out 6 hour SC assignments? My last one was and my FO said he’d gotten one too. A fantastic change if they stick with it.
if it was res guarantee +12 pay/no credit I bet that would get some takers. 84-92 hours isn’t bad. Maybe its just me but I’ve been used on 1 of my last 5 SCs.

I’ve seen those 6 hour SCs assigned for early morning SCs, I assume it’s so you are still legal for an 18 hour callout to an AM show the next morning.
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