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08-12-2024, 03:30 PM
#142
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Awaiting ALPA guidance.
08-12-2024, 09:21 PM
#143
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It sounds like they are assigning people 6 hour short call periods, but calling some guys during their SC periods and extending them to 9 hours. I looked in the contract and it seems like a grey area and a reinterpretation by the company yet again.
Awaiting ALPA guidance.
Awaiting ALPA guidance.
“Multiple Short Call Periods in Succession
In order for a pilot to be awarded multiple short-call periods in succession, each short-call period must be
preceded by the FAR-required 10-hour rest prior to the start of short call. The Company may, at its discretion,
truncate a short-call period in order to accommodate a subsequent short-call period.”
08-13-2024, 04:09 AM
#144
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An “extension” sounds like SC assignment number 2.
“Multiple Short Call Periods in Succession
In order for a pilot to be awarded multiple short-call periods in succession, each short-call period must be
preceded by the FAR-required 10-hour rest prior to the start of short call. The Company may, at its discretion,
truncate a short-call period in order to accommodate a subsequent short-call period.”
“Multiple Short Call Periods in Succession
In order for a pilot to be awarded multiple short-call periods in succession, each short-call period must be
preceded by the FAR-required 10-hour rest prior to the start of short call. The Company may, at its discretion,
truncate a short-call period in order to accommodate a subsequent short-call period.”
08-13-2024, 01:38 PM
#145
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It sounds like they are assigning people 6 hour short call periods, but calling some guys during their SC periods and extending them to 9 hours. I looked in the contract and it seems like a grey area and a reinterpretation by the company yet again.
Awaiting ALPA guidance.
Awaiting ALPA guidance.
08-13-2024, 03:19 PM
#146
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08-14-2024, 07:59 AM
#147
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An “extension” sounds like SC assignment number 2.
“Multiple Short Call Periods in Succession
In order for a pilot to be awarded multiple short-call periods in succession, each short-call period must be
preceded by the FAR-required 10-hour rest prior to the start of short call. The Company may, at its discretion,
truncate a short-call period in order to accommodate a subsequent short-call period.”
“Multiple Short Call Periods in Succession
In order for a pilot to be awarded multiple short-call periods in succession, each short-call period must be
preceded by the FAR-required 10-hour rest prior to the start of short call. The Company may, at its discretion,
truncate a short-call period in order to accommodate a subsequent short-call period.”
PWA says 18hrs unless you submit a YS (not YSIN) which can waive the 18 down to 10.
08-14-2024, 08:36 AM
#148
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It sounds like they are assigning people 6 hour short call periods, but calling some guys during their SC periods and extending them to 9 hours. I looked in the contract and it seems like a grey area and a reinterpretation by the company yet again.
Awaiting ALPA guidance.
Awaiting ALPA guidance.
PWA allows for SC up to 12 hours. The "standard" 9-hour block is a relatively new construct (4-ish years, maybe??). The "new" 6-hour block is just that: new.
I can foresee a very simple response by the company if this is pursued by DALPA beyond some basic Q&A: All SCs revert to 12 hours; don't bother calling for early release, the answer is "no"....
08-14-2024, 08:43 AM
#149
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May want to be careful picking at this particular scab....
PWA allows for SC up to 12 hours. The "standard" 9-hour block is a relatively new construct (4-ish years, maybe??). The "new" 6-hour block is just that: new.
I can foresee a very simple response by the company if this is pursued by DALPA beyond some basic Q&A: All SCs revert to 12 hours; don't bother calling for early release, the answer is "no"....
PWA allows for SC up to 12 hours. The "standard" 9-hour block is a relatively new construct (4-ish years, maybe??). The "new" 6-hour block is just that: new.
I can foresee a very simple response by the company if this is pursued by DALPA beyond some basic Q&A: All SCs revert to 12 hours; don't bother calling for early release, the answer is "no"....
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