FangsF15

That decision originated with the other VP and her side of the house…

There’s truth in this, but there is also a limit to what one can do when you aren’t the SVP or EVP. Realizing he’s still management, I remain cautiously optimistic until I see a reason to affirmatively change my mind.

StoneQOLdCrazy

I agree. It's amazing how he can speak in front of a group and he seems to be a friendly guy, but upon closer examination, he says absolutely nothing of substance. It's a remarkable skill, to speak for 15 minutes and say nothing.

Anyway, he seems personable, but actions speak louder than words and I'm not seeing actions much different than Patrick "Wheels up" Burns.

And he hasn't done **** to stop the no-notice pay "audits" months or years after the fact. His CPOs should have been staffed around the clock during the IROP, but they weren't. He doubles down on the Sonesta Select training hotel every chance he can. He has kept that clown Jason Z around. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Honeymoon's over.

notEnuf

So the other side is to blame and our side came to the rescue, nope. The pilots and ALPA made the difference not our fearless leader. And as said above being likable isn't being reliable or forthright. Some would say they needed his personality following PB. Either way, at that level the loyalty is to the company not the PWA or the pilots. Actually I can say that about any level of management but the higher the perch on the ladder the less concern there is for those below.

waldo135

And the SVP is …RG.

FangsF15

Didn't say that BS came to our rescue at all. Just that the Payback day fiasco wasn't him.



Agree completely. They have a job to do. It has ever been thus.

Valar Morghulis

The primary cause of the problems in this thread is the siloed corporate culture. Middle management, and all the people who do all the ridiculous things and make all of the ridiculous and insulting daily decisions are completely isolated from upper management, and they are completely immune from the consequences of any bad decisions they make. Any changes in policy or any attempts to alter the way they do things are simply ignored. It’s been this way for as long as I’ve been here.

Every attempt that I’ve seen to mix it up when new VPs have come in is like stirring up oil and water. Sure, it gets mixed up for a bit, but it soon separates out again.

Look at the example on FB a few months ago. Pilot gets an illegal assignment. The scheduling supervisor agrees it’s illegal, the duty pilot agrees it’s illegal, even the pilots CPO agrees it’s illegal, but the scheduler refuses to remove the assignment and no one has the will to buck that system, not even the scheduler’s direct supervisor. That’s a failure of leadership on multiple levels. I’m stealing an idea from another poster from that episode (it bears repeating) but the right answer would have been for the CPO to call the supervisor and say “I’ve told this pilot not to report, so rather than complain about it, I’d get busy figuring out your trip coverage”. Where is that kind of leadership?

Until someone comes in and lays down the law, with people who refuse to get with the program are shown the door, nothing will change.

CBreezy

Because the CPO isn't interested in making it right. They are interested in erasing parts of the contract through the grievance process.

Hotel Kilo

Agreed, but it's been worse in the past, believe me.

I've worked with BS, he's a pilot advocate. BS works for RG, never forget that.

See above. BS works for RG. Also the PB/PR fiasco was not BS's doing. That was a middle manager going rogue. Let's not forget who sits at the top of the paramid in flight operations.

MrBojangles

at my last airline we had pure SC lines. As one of the most junior in category guess what I got? 0400 SC all month and they managed to call dang near every day with something, conversion to airport reserve, early turn, moving airplanes around from the hangar..it was no fun!

ancman

Meanwhile, nearly every available narrowbody reserve is on SC today and tomorrow. 80 or more in some categories. I look forward to seeing this bite the company at the end of the month.