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Old 07-26-2024, 12:59 PM
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Since we are now fully recovered from the meltdown, I think it’s time to discuss what management should do to help compensate the frontline employees who got them through this meltdown. We faced furious passengers, sat around at airports, paid for hotel rooms out of pocket, and much more so I don’t think expecting compensation for that is unreasonable. Here’s what I think our compensation should include:

1. accountability for the meltdown from management and a commitment to modernize our IT. This is #1 for me. Constantly trying to blame Crowdstrike is unacceptable in my opinion. Other airlines recovered immediately. We didn’t. I think IT is the reason why and we need to make sure this doesn’t happen again.

2. write off the expense of the meltdown as a 1 time write off so it doesn’t factor into our profit sharing. It’s not our fault this meltdown occurred and our profit sharing shouldn’t suffer because of it.

3. Positive space tickets. I think 2 round trip tickets or 4 one way tickets would be acceptable.

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Since we are now fully recovered from the meltdown, I think it’s time to discuss what management should do to help compensate the frontline employees who got them through this meltdown. We faced furious passengers, sat around at airports, paid for hotel rooms out of pocket, and much more so I don’t think expecting compensation for that is unreasonable. Here’s what I think our compensation should include:

1. accountability for the meltdown from management and a commitment to modernize our IT. This is #1 for me. Constantly trying to blame Crowdstrike is unacceptable in my opinion. Other airlines recovered immediately. We didn’t. I think IT is the reason why and we need to make sure this doesn’t happen again.

2. write off the expense of the meltdown as a 1 time write off so it doesn’t factor into our profit sharing. It’s not our fault this meltdown occurred and our profit sharing shouldn’t suffer because of it.

3. Positive space tickets. I think 2 round trip tickets or 4 one way tickets would be acceptable.

anything I’m missing?
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Old 07-26-2024, 03:15 PM
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Complimentary Crowdstrike software update for all employees?

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Old 07-26-2024, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMack
Since we are now fully recovered from the meltdown, I think it’s time to discuss what management should do to help compensate the frontline employees who got them through this meltdown. We faced furious passengers, sat around at airports, paid for hotel rooms out of pocket, and much more so I don’t think expecting compensation for that is unreasonable. Here’s what I think our compensation should include:

1. accountability for the meltdown from management and a commitment to modernize our IT. This is #1 for me. Constantly trying to blame Crowdstrike is unacceptable in my opinion. Other airlines recovered immediately. We didn’t. I think IT is the reason why and we need to make sure this doesn’t happen again.

2. write off the expense of the meltdown as a 1 time write off so it doesn’t factor into our profit sharing. It’s not our fault this meltdown occurred and our profit sharing shouldn’t suffer because of it.

3. Positive space tickets. I think 2 round trip tickets or 4 one way tickets would be acceptable.

anything I’m missing?
#1, the reason why Delta suffered the most is because it runs the most modern IT of the legacies.
AA runs Sabre as its backbone which is 1960s tech. Thats why they werent affected by it as they only had to reboot the end nodes.
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#1, the reason why Delta suffered the most is because it runs the most modern IT of the legacies.
AA runs Sabre as its backbone which is 1960s tech. Thats why they werent affected by it as they only had to reboot the end nodes.
DBMS is older than the oldest airframe we have, a 752 built in 1989. Think about that for a second.

I thought UA went through modernization of their version of CrewMod several years before Covid hit? No?
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DBMS is older than the oldest airframe we have, a 752 built in 1989. Think about that for a second.

I thought UA went through modernization of their version of CrewMod several years before Covid hit? No?
UA's CEO before covid said UA was an "IT company, with wings".
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Originally Posted by CaptainMack
Since we are now fully recovered from the meltdown, I think it’s time to discuss what management should do to help compensate the frontline employees who got them through this meltdown. We faced furious passengers, sat around at airports, paid for hotel rooms out of pocket, and much more so I don’t think expecting compensation for that is unreasonable. Here’s what I think our compensation should include:

1. accountability for the meltdown from management and a commitment to modernize our IT. This is #1 for me. Constantly trying to blame Crowdstrike is unacceptable in my opinion. Other airlines recovered immediately. We didn’t. I think IT is the reason why and we need to make sure this doesn’t happen again.

2. write off the expense of the meltdown as a 1 time write off so it doesn’t factor into our profit sharing. It’s not our fault this meltdown occurred and our profit sharing shouldn’t suffer because of it.

3. Positive space tickets. I think 2 round trip tickets or 4 one way tickets would be acceptable.

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Originally Posted by FangsF15
DBMS is older than the oldest airframe we have, a 752 built in 1989. Think about that for a second.

I thought UA went through modernization of their version of CrewMod several years before Covid hit? No?
The first iteration of DBMS was in the mid 70's

What became PCS was a product of C2k, and was implemented in 18 months (1 year implementation date, which was then slid six months). When you stop and think about what PCS does, that's pretty impressive.
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The first iteration of DBMS was in the mid 70's

What became PCS was a product of C2k, and was implemented in 18 months (1 year implementation date, which was then slid six months). When you stop and think about what PCS does, that's pretty impressive.
I saw a pic on BookFace some time ago of an example monthly schedule from 1988 which is essentially unchanged from today. Formatting, rotation codes, PVAC, everything. There are a few minor things different, but every pilot hired last month would be able to read that 1988 schedule.

And we wonder why Crowdstrike caused so much chaos when we are working with programming on a 40 year upgrade cycle.
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Old 07-26-2024, 06:18 PM
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How about delta worries about how it is going to repay its paying customers first. I am out of pocket $200 Uber, $140 rental car, plus I had to purchase business class tickets on AA because delt could not get me home until Thursday when I started my trip on Sunday and two days of my life lost.
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