IT outage
07-21-2024, 11:29 AM
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We have that at United. It’s called Airport Standby
07-21-2024, 11:42 AM
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DAL has voluntary airport standby, but it is very restrictive. It is below the green slip step of coverage, and is essentially for segements that would have resulted in another crew getting rerouted.
Trips cannot be longer than two days or passing through your base, whichever comes first.
Trips cannot be longer than two days or passing through your base, whichever comes first.
07-21-2024, 11:46 AM
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It’s limited to 8 hours or less prior to report, per the batch size giveaway settlement.
The company can also use 23.M.7 more than 8 hours in advance with approval from the scheduling committee chair.
The company can also use 23.M.7 more than 8 hours in advance with approval from the scheduling committee chair.
07-21-2024, 11:50 AM
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M7 isn’t necessarily the invoking of emergency trip coverage. It’s simply the purposeful skipping over steps in the coverage ladder (such as to reroute).
07-21-2024, 12:05 PM
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there’s also greedy pilots taking advantage of it and mad they aren’t flying premium right now. Just had a captain try to delay / cancel a flight to avoid going to LA. He didn’t do **** to help the operation, only made it worse and just say there doing nothing to try and get a FO by contacting OCC or anyone. He was hoping for a reroute. Many commuters trying to get to work and home, along with pax
07-21-2024, 12:16 PM
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there’s also greedy pilots taking advantage of it and mad they aren’t flying premium right now. Just had a captain try to delay / cancel a flight to avoid going to LA. He didn’t do **** to help the operation, only made it worse and just say there doing nothing to try and get a FO by contacting OCC or anyone. He was hoping for a reroute. Many commuters trying to get to work and home, along with pax
07-21-2024, 12:24 PM
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If this blows up Delta's recently reinstated "investment grade" credit rating heads are going to roll.
07-21-2024, 12:27 PM
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there’s also greedy pilots taking advantage of it and mad they aren’t flying premium right now. Just had a captain try to delay / cancel a flight to avoid going to LA. He didn’t do **** to help the operation, only made it worse and just say there doing nothing to try and get a FO by contacting OCC or anyone. He was hoping for a reroute. Many commuters trying to get to work and home, along with pax
07-21-2024, 12:36 PM
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We don't have the depth in crew scheduling, crew tracking or crew accommodations required for recovery. It doesn't make sense to carry that many extra people either. What we need is a group of crosstrained employees from another workgroup that could be brought in to help recover the operation. We would need a recovery group about 3x the size of our normal staffing.
07-21-2024, 12:49 PM
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There are two tiers- within 3 hours and within 8 hours. The within 3 hours is emergency trip coverage and that is long settled precedent. The within 8 has to do with shortening the M7 window from the old “unlimited” to 8 hours per the grievance settlement.
M7 isn’t necessarily the invoking of emergency trip coverage. It’s simply the purposeful skipping over steps in the coverage ladder (such as to reroute).
M7 isn’t necessarily the invoking of emergency trip coverage. It’s simply the purposeful skipping over steps in the coverage ladder (such as to reroute).
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