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Old 07-26-2024, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
If you submit a claim you know is fraudulent they will fire you. It's not a game of catch me if you can.
Well unless you’re using a different dictionary (which is possible, you’re probably one of the worst spellers on here), there is a huge difference between committing fraud and being denied an expenses you believe you incurred as a result of circumstances that occurred on company time.
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Old 07-26-2024, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Claimed expenses for his dog on a company paid move. Another pilot tried to include costs in moving a boat from coast to coast.
That's not fraud, that's just an expense they will deny. Unless they tried to lie about it, they're not going to fire them for it.
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Old 07-26-2024, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Claimed expenses for his dog on a company paid move. Another pilot tried to include costs in moving a boat from coast to coast.
Originally Posted by Khantahr
That's not fraud, that's just an expense they will deny. Unless they tried to lie about it, they're not going to fire them for it.

Khantahr beat me to it. If I had a company-paid move, I’d likely claim those as well—based on my previous “company” paid moves in the USAF (where such expenses are part of the move). This is the first inkling I’ve ever had (albeit unconfirmed) that such expenses are NOT claimable. Would I have been fired if I claimed those…?

I simply can’t believe there’s not (a whole lot) more to the story….
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Old 07-26-2024, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
Khantahr beat me to it. If I had a company-paid move, I’d likely claim those as well—based on my previous “company” paid moves in the USAF (where such expenses are part of the move). This is the first inkling I’ve ever had (albeit unconfirmed) that such expenses are NOT claimable. Would I have been fired if I claimed those…?

I simply can’t believe there’s not (a whole lot) more to the story….
I agree. There has to be some history there, culmiating in a Final Letter of Warning with a suspension prior to something anywhere close to this being upheld as a terminable offense. If this story is true, the pilot was not on their first rodeo for discipline.
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Old 07-26-2024, 04:16 PM
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Sailing with a vague, implausible "you dumb pilot" getting out in their place by management post? Some things never change. Such contempt, even in retirement.
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Old 07-26-2024, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
TLDR: https://dal-jetstream.my.site.com/pilots/s/


The Crew Assist "app" on your EFB is really no such thing--it's essentially just a shortcut to Safari (running in its own sandbox), with its own icon, etc. Same as, say, the @Rest "app" on the EFB (among many others).

The link above is the main page that the "app" displays, all other links work from there. I've found it doesn't play well with ad blockers & other anti-tracking extensions, so you may need to either allow it to bypass those or set up a different browser for this (and similar websites with that issue), which is my solution. Works fine* on a personal iPhone (no knowledge of Android one way or the other)....


EDIT: *(albeit with some jacked up screen spacing)
Thanks. Now the question is do the pay specialists work weekends
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Old 07-27-2024, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Claimed expenses for his dog on a company paid move. Another pilot tried to include costs in moving a boat from coast to coast.
why would either of those be fraud? It seems perfectly reasonable that if I’m on a company paid move…the company will pay for my move. moving my family (including pets) and things seem perfectly reasonable things to expense on a paid move.

if either of these anecdotes are true the company was being extraordinarily vindictive and ALPA totally failed to do their job.
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Old 07-27-2024, 08:30 AM
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why would either of those be fraud? It seems perfectly reasonable that if I’m on a company paid move…the company will pay for my move. moving my family (including pets) and things seem perfectly reasonable things to expense on a paid move.

if either of these anecdotes are true the company was being extraordinarily vindictive and ALPA totally failed to do their job.
Sailing is full of folk lore of pilots getting fired for trivial stuff... Or violated for not checking a jumpseater's medical etc, etc.
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Old 07-27-2024, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
If you submit a claim you know is fraudulent they will fire you. It's not a game of catch me if you can.
Unless the expense was truly falsified, rather than a misinterpretation of whether it was contractually reimbursable, then the termination becomes a paid vacation when the pilot gets their job back (with full back pay).

People underestimate how difficult it is for Delta to fire a pilot AND make the termination stick.
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Old 07-27-2024, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ancman
Unless the expense was truly falsified, rather than a misinterpretation of whether it was contractually reimbursable, then the termination becomes a paid vacation when the pilot gets their job back (with full back pay).

People underestimate how difficult it is for Delta to fire a pilot AND make the termination stick.
Sailing be like, a pilot was fired once for *fraudulently* submitting a pay report for reroute pay on a flight that was just delayed until the next day
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