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Old 08-01-2024, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
I think you underestimate the desire of some pilots to work their way into a job where they don't have to fly planes, or fly much less.
I think this is a universal concept for all professions. Lease amount of work for the most earnings is the goal. My surgeon scheduled 5 procedures in a single day and had the rest of the week free.
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Old 08-01-2024, 02:22 PM
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Looking this from the international fleets perspective, it looks like you would lose money unless like someone else said you bid reserve. If you do a losa audit on an international three day are you getting paid for all three days or just the two observation flights? So 10 or 15 hours? Even if its 15 a typical 3 day pays anywhere from 16-19 hours depending on your base. If you start out the month preloaded with 15 hours of credit and want to fly 75, your going to end up around 64.5-70 hours - might as well fly another 3 day or get a three day gs. Reserve would take away three days I guess.
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Old 08-01-2024, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NWA4LIFE
Looking this from the international fleets perspective, it looks like you would lose money unless like someone else said you bid reserve. If you do a losa audit on an international three day are you getting paid for all three days or just the two observation flights? So 10 or 15 hours? Even if its 15 a typical 3 day pays anywhere from 16-19 hours depending on your base. If you start out the month preloaded with 15 hours of credit and want to fly 75, your going to end up around 64.5-70 hours - might as well fly another 3 day or get a three day gs. Reserve would take away three days I guess.
I am told WB folks get 4 days blocked. Expected to observe one leg, then spend two nights in the hotel across the pond so you can observe a different crew on the way back.

The biggest issue to me is that the LOSA days are pay/no credit, so presumably if you are a lineholder then it will really hurt your shot at GS.
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Old 08-03-2024, 09:32 AM
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I am told WB folks get 4 days blocked. Expected to observe one leg, then spend two nights in the hotel across the pond so you can observe a different crew on the way back.

The biggest issue to me is that the LOSA days are pay/no credit, so presumably if you are a lineholder then it will really hurt your shot at GS.
Do you know if they get 4 days blocked is that 4 days of pay at 5 hours credit or is it 4 days blocked, a 2 day layover and only 10 hours of pay for doing 2 losa observations.
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Old 08-03-2024, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NWA4LIFE
Do you know if they get 4 days blocked is that 4 days of pay at 5 hours credit or is it 4 days blocked, a 2 day layover and only 10 hours of pay for doing 2 losa observations.
My understanding is the former.
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Old 08-03-2024, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NWA4LIFE
Do you know if they get 4 days blocked is that 4 days of pay at 5 hours credit or is it 4 days blocked, a 2 day layover and only 10 hours of pay for doing 2 losa observations.
For an ocean crossing trip, ( say a 3 day to AMS) you get 4 LOSA days for 2 observations. That’s 20 hours. If the layover is 48 hours ( 4 day trip) , it’s still 4 LOSA days( 20 hours pay/ no credit)
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Old 08-03-2024, 05:11 PM
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Leave it to Delta flight ops to seek out volunteers who are willing to take a pay cut to do an "important" job.
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Old 08-04-2024, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I think this is a universal concept for all professions. Lease amount of work for the most earnings is the goal. My surgeon scheduled 5 procedures in a single day and had the rest of the week free.

These are two different things. I'm with you on max pay per time gone, it's why SS are so great. I'm talking about is the pilots taking these (or other) gigs in hopes of working themselves into an office job. Those jobs certainly aren't the hallmark of least work for most pay.
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