Be Safe to and from the Airport
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I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just an ineffective thing. Maybe just asking the individual on your van ride if they wore a seatbelt driving to work before the trip while smirking and looking them in the eye would be more effective. This seems a little "dad knows what's best for you."
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I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just an ineffective thing. Maybe just asking the individual on your van ride if they wore a seatbelt driving to work before the trip while smirking and looking them in the eye would be more effective. This seems a little "dad knows what's best for you."
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"We regret to inform you that your spouse died this morning in an accident on the interstate while in transit from the layover hotel to the airport. While he was wearing his seatbelt, the other crewmember selfishly refused to buckle their seatbelt and became a projectile during the roll over portion of the accident, fatally injuring your spouse. We're sorry for your loss, here are 10k skymiles. Bless"
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"We regret to inform you that your spouse died this morning in an accident on the interstate while in transit from the layover hotel to the airport. While he was wearing his seatbelt, the other crewmember selfishly refused to buckle their seatbelt and became a projectile during the roll over portion of the accident, fatally injuring your spouse. We're sorry for your loss, here are 10k skymiles. Bless"
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I'm not beyond suggesting to my crew - no, make that anybody in the same van - that buckling up is best, and I’ll tell the driver about any inoperative seatbelts. If I feel the response is not serious (or if I ride in the same van days/weeks later and find te same inop status, it’s a call to the transportation company management and an FSR). I don't GAS if anybody onboard thinks I'm a *ick for raising the issue, because it's a real-deal survivability consideration. I have seen folks ejected from seemingly minor accidents - staying within the vehicle has an exponential impact on mortality! I like that most Asian and European large buses (typical crew transport) have good seatbelts. Many folks have a false sense of security, riding in a 40-foot diesel motor coach, or even a Ford Transit Van. The buckle-up should be habitual for everyone with a brain. There’s a lot of stupid, overbearing nanny-state safety mandates in place for various things; wearing a seatbelt ain’t one of them!
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I'm not beyond suggesting to my crew - no, make that anybody in the same van - that buckling up is best, and I’ll tell the driver about any inoperative seatbelts. If I feel the response is not serious (or if I ride in the same van days/weeks later and find te same inop status, it’s a call to the transportation company management and an FSR). I don't GAS if anybody onboard thinks I'm a *ick for raising the issue, because it's a real-deal survivability consideration. I have seen folks ejected from seemingly minor accidents - staying within the vehicle has an exponential impact on mortality! I like that most Asian and European large buses (typical crew transport) have good seatbelts. Many folks have a false sense of security, riding in a 40-foot diesel motor coach, or even a Ford Transit Van. The buckle-up should be habitual for everyone with a brain. There’s a lot of stupid, overbearing nanny-state safety mandates in place for various things; wearing a seatbelt ain’t one of them!
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It does seem logical that insurance would be void , as the individual chose not to protect his self interest and the result is others have to pay for his negelict, stupdity, lack of accepting responsibility for his actions.
Insurance is insurance, whether provided by the employer or purchased by the individual. Premiums increase for all, due to higher payouts which is directly proportiional to lack of responsibility.
What about motorcyclists that refuse to wear a helmet?
What about bicyclists?
What about smokers?
What about illicit drug users?
What about lack of slip proof mats in bathtubs?
Yada, yada , yada
Noetheless, an excellent PSA and good info re insurance....I can't understand the pushback. The PSA is positive reinforcement.....the pushback on here is virtue signal shaming.
I suspect those against the seat belt PSA are for PSA's to get out the vote, wear a mask, social distance. And vice-versa. Really, aren't these PSA's essentially the same?
JMHO
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I wonder what the logic is for that? Is that medical insurance? Is that life insurance? Is that OJI provisions? I don't know, but all of them would seem logical.
It does seem logical that insurance would be void , as the individual chose not to protect his self interest and the result is others have to pay for his negelict, stupdity, lack of accepting responsibility for his actions.
Insurance is insurance, whether provided by the employer or purchased by the individual. Premiums increase for all, due to higher payouts which is directly proportiional to lack of responsibility.
What about motorcyclists that refuse to wear a helmet?
What about bicyclists?
What about smokers?
What about illicit drug users?
What about lack of slip proof mats in bathtubs?
Yada, yada , yada
Noetheless, an excellent PSA and good info re insurance....I can't understand the pushback. The PSA is positive reinforcement.....the pushback on here is virtue signal shaming.
I suspect those against the seat belt PSA are for PSA's to get out the vote, wear a mask, social distance. And vice-versa. Really, aren't these PSA's essentially the same?
JMHO
It does seem logical that insurance would be void , as the individual chose not to protect his self interest and the result is others have to pay for his negelict, stupdity, lack of accepting responsibility for his actions.
Insurance is insurance, whether provided by the employer or purchased by the individual. Premiums increase for all, due to higher payouts which is directly proportiional to lack of responsibility.
What about motorcyclists that refuse to wear a helmet?
What about bicyclists?
What about smokers?
What about illicit drug users?
What about lack of slip proof mats in bathtubs?
Yada, yada , yada
Noetheless, an excellent PSA and good info re insurance....I can't understand the pushback. The PSA is positive reinforcement.....the pushback on here is virtue signal shaming.
I suspect those against the seat belt PSA are for PSA's to get out the vote, wear a mask, social distance. And vice-versa. Really, aren't these PSA's essentially the same?
JMHO