Delta bans other country flags on uniform
07-13-2024, 06:21 AM
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the first amendment protects you from the government for what you say. that’s why, for example, you cannot be arrested for saying something racist, homophobic, ect, but your employer can absolutely fire you for that.
pretty much the only 1A protections from employers have to do with unions. DL cannot ban AFA pins for example
this is no more a 1A violation than DL saying we can’t have political bag stickers or bring politics into a PA.
07-13-2024, 06:25 AM
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the baker was his own boss, and the reason it was a free speech issue is he was being sued to be compelled by the state to do something. If he had been a regular employee, the bakery could have fired him, but the state of Colorado could not force him to make a cake a certain way.
the first amendment protects you from the government for what you say. that’s why, for example, you cannot be arrested for using a racial slur, but your employer can absolutely fire you for that.
pretty much the only 1A protections from employers have to do with unions. DL cannot ban AFA pins for example
this is no more a 1A violation than DL saying we can’t have political bag stickers.
the first amendment protects you from the government for what you say. that’s why, for example, you cannot be arrested for using a racial slur, but your employer can absolutely fire you for that.
pretty much the only 1A protections from employers have to do with unions. DL cannot ban AFA pins for example
this is no more a 1A violation than DL saying we can’t have political bag stickers.
07-13-2024, 06:51 AM
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the baker was his own boss, and the reason it was a free speech issue is he was being sued to be compelled by the state to do something. If he had been a regular employee, the bakery could have fired him, but the state of Colorado could not force him to make a cake a certain way.
the first amendment protects you from the government for what you say. that’s why, for example, you cannot be arrested for saying something racist, homophobic, ect, but your employer can absolutely fire you for that.
pretty much the only 1A protections from employers have to do with unions. DL cannot ban AFA pins for example
this is no more a 1A violation than DL saying we can’t have political bag stickers or bring politics into a PA.
the first amendment protects you from the government for what you say. that’s why, for example, you cannot be arrested for saying something racist, homophobic, ect, but your employer can absolutely fire you for that.
pretty much the only 1A protections from employers have to do with unions. DL cannot ban AFA pins for example
this is no more a 1A violation than DL saying we can’t have political bag stickers or bring politics into a PA.
07-13-2024, 07:01 AM
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To me this makes sense, especially as geopolitics gets more tense over time. How exactly is Delta expected to manage a problem between coworkers when it stems from one wearing a Palestinian pin and the other an Israeli pin? Unless they are to pick a side it's only going to cause headaches for them. I can see why they encourage LGBTQ flare since most customers seem to generally be ok with not discriminating against those groups (despite whatever political views prevail among pilots on the matter), but for a large corporation to pick a side on something like this would be like letting employees wear pro-choice/pro-life tags at work.
07-13-2024, 07:12 AM
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To me this makes sense, especially as geopolitics gets more tense over time. How exactly is Delta expected to manage a problem between coworkers when it stems from one wearing a Palestinian pin and the other an Israeli pin? Unless they are to pick a side it's only going to cause headaches for them. I can see why they encourage LGBTQ flare since most customers seem to generally be ok with not discriminating against those groups (despite whatever political views prevail among pilots on the matter), but for a large corporation to pick a side on something like this would be like letting employees wear pro-choice/pro-life tags at work.
07-13-2024, 07:27 AM
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Delta obviously thinks they are. Or that most passengers are very pro genocide so they would be offended by a Palestinian pin. At the end of the day we don't have freedom of speech while working for a private company and we either do what they want, or we quit. That's the beauty of America.
07-13-2024, 07:38 AM
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Delta obviously thinks they are. Or that most passengers are very pro genocide so they would be offended by a Palestinian pin. At the end of the day we don't have freedom of speech while working for a private company and we either do what they want, or we quit. That's the beauty of America.
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07-13-2024, 08:02 AM
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Now how can we tell who the speakers are?
07-13-2024, 08:26 AM
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Delta obviously thinks they are. Or that most passengers are very pro genocide so they would be offended by a Palestinian pin. At the end of the day we don't have freedom of speech while working for a private company and we either do what they want, or we quit. That's the beauty of America.
How many posts did you make when Hamas murdered 1200 people?
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