Delta bans other country flags on uniform
07-18-2024, 08:59 AM
#181
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So how much money would you allow them to “deduct” from your paycheck before you aren’t okay with it? In order to pay for everything that has already been spent and we are obligated to spend they would need to take your whole pay check. Are you okay with that? It is for the good of the community. They will let you keep your house, as long as you keep working and paying taxes.
And that's why we have elected representatives. They go and can change how much and where taxes go. I don't disagree that we need to cut out some bloat...to include and especially within our military. But the libertarian theory is far more absurd. In order to have a functional society and not an aristocracy, our infrastructure absolutely needs to be maintained.
07-18-2024, 09:54 AM
#183
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I pay my taxes and I do feel a general obligation to help my fellow man and to leave things better than I found them for future generations, yes. Interestingly all religous and civic organizations are founded on the same principal. How much? I guess I'm OK with the present level because my lifestyle is great and I am saving for retirement at 58 while paying taxes. Crazy commie talk, I know. How much tax do you think corporations should pay? Those are the legal contrivances we use to circumvent things like responsible production and living wages, that also have rights.
07-18-2024, 10:32 AM
#184
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so when you wake up in the morning and decide to constantly post propaganda, do you also decide that it’s OK to be a no integrity liar?
It must be pretty tough to be in the mind of someone who is so confused and unsure of their position that they have to lie to try and make their point.
Reference post eight in this thread.
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hangar-talk/147754-dea-searching-pax-jetway.html
You literally say “the constitution says otherwise” when John Burke says that you consent to search when entering a secure area.
to be honest, I’m surprised the mods haven’t banned you for the amount of propaganda that you post
still waiting on how you can support homosexuality, but not support them getting married……….
It must be pretty tough to be in the mind of someone who is so confused and unsure of their position that they have to lie to try and make their point.
Reference post eight in this thread.
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hangar-talk/147754-dea-searching-pax-jetway.html
You literally say “the constitution says otherwise” when John Burke says that you consent to search when entering a secure area.
to be honest, I’m surprised the mods haven’t banned you for the amount of propaganda that you post
still waiting on how you can support homosexuality, but not support them getting married……….
They always troll the most incendiary toplcs just to get people spooled up. Tear us apart from within.
07-18-2024, 10:55 AM
#185
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I'm thinking it's Milton from Office Space.
https://youtu.be/CvMeiKSD43E?si=b3EPWMExC4OvJJFF
07-18-2024, 11:52 AM
#186
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That's quite the hyperbole. The highest effective tax rate even for the highest earners in this country is around 25%.
And that's why we have elected representatives. They go and can change how much and where taxes go. I don't disagree that we need to cut out some bloat...to include and especially within our military. But the libertarian theory is far more absurd. In order to have a functional society and not an aristocracy, our infrastructure absolutely needs to be maintained.
And that's why we have elected representatives. They go and can change how much and where taxes go. I don't disagree that we need to cut out some bloat...to include and especially within our military. But the libertarian theory is far more absurd. In order to have a functional society and not an aristocracy, our infrastructure absolutely needs to be maintained.
07-18-2024, 12:48 PM
#187
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https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...xes-in-the-us/
07-18-2024, 12:55 PM
#188
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I was referring to income tax because that applies to all US citizens. The rest of the taxes are too variable to make generalizations. But, according to pew, in 2020, the effective tax rate for people like 500k to 5M was 25.5%. For those 200-500k, it was less than 20%.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...xes-in-the-us/
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...xes-in-the-us/
07-18-2024, 01:55 PM
#190
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[QUOTE=notEnuf;3821026}BTW, get off our roads and because the military defends all your rights we will send you a bill.[/QUOTE]
From PEW Research regarding Federal Income Tax....
"Another 60.3 million returns showed AGIs of less than $30,000. The average effective tax rate for those taxpayers was 1.5%, even before refundable tax credits were applied.Millions of Americans actually get money from the IRS, largely due to refundable tax credits. (This is distinct from the refunds eagerly awaited by legions of taxpayers, which typically result from more tax being withheld from people’s paychecks than they end up owing.)
After refundable credits were figured in, taxpayers with AGIs below $30,000 (including those with no AGI or with negative AGI) collectively got back more than $78.6 billion from the IRS in 2020. For taxpayers with AGIs between $1 and $15,000, their average effective tax rate fell to ‑14.8%, from ‑10.3% in 2019, largely due to coronavirus pandemic-related federal relief efforts, some of which were structured as tax credits."
So, these 60.3 million "taxpayers" use the same roads and get the same protection of the military, but not only do they not pay anything for those services.....They are paid to use the services by the other almost 50% of the population who actually do pay federal income tax.
Should we send a bill to those 60.3 million for their use of societies infastructure or should the other taxpayers pay them to use those facilities?
It's kinda similiar to the .gov "forgiving student load debt" paid for by............ the other taxpayers.
Buying votes has to be at least considered in the equation as well as the "need" and "afford" and "pay your fair share".
From PEW Research regarding Federal Income Tax....
"Another 60.3 million returns showed AGIs of less than $30,000. The average effective tax rate for those taxpayers was 1.5%, even before refundable tax credits were applied.Millions of Americans actually get money from the IRS, largely due to refundable tax credits. (This is distinct from the refunds eagerly awaited by legions of taxpayers, which typically result from more tax being withheld from people’s paychecks than they end up owing.)
After refundable credits were figured in, taxpayers with AGIs below $30,000 (including those with no AGI or with negative AGI) collectively got back more than $78.6 billion from the IRS in 2020. For taxpayers with AGIs between $1 and $15,000, their average effective tax rate fell to ‑14.8%, from ‑10.3% in 2019, largely due to coronavirus pandemic-related federal relief efforts, some of which were structured as tax credits."
So, these 60.3 million "taxpayers" use the same roads and get the same protection of the military, but not only do they not pay anything for those services.....They are paid to use the services by the other almost 50% of the population who actually do pay federal income tax.
Should we send a bill to those 60.3 million for their use of societies infastructure or should the other taxpayers pay them to use those facilities?
It's kinda similiar to the .gov "forgiving student load debt" paid for by............ the other taxpayers.
Buying votes has to be at least considered in the equation as well as the "need" and "afford" and "pay your fair share".
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