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Old 07-04-2024, 09:02 AM
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They really had to go in there & say no to AUS base D:
Delta really that turned off to the idea of a south central hub, maybe waiting for deliveries or terminal expansion in AUS?
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Old 07-04-2024, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Realistically probably only LHR. DUB/LIS as well. AMS in the winter is iffy, same as CDG.

This is good news for us. It means we are looking to expand our European flying with our own metal. Plenty of 330 deliveries coming so it seems the target for those aircraft are going to majority of the European market. I also like to see that the ATL superbase is going to be lessened with opening of BOS. I don't think you'll see a draw down from the NY base though. It looks like DTW might be the place that gets the most effect from personnel wise from this move. In the end I see this as a growth move on the company's part, it was long past due. Now we have 2 bases in the NE from which to launch destinations in Europe. That'll be good movement and I'm very happy to see they finally chucked a rock and opened the BOS base with a WB to lead it off. This will give JB a run for their money, especially as they start to onboard the XLR there.
How did you get “lessening of the ATL super base” from this announcement?

This is going to affect NYC and probably DTW more than ATL on 330.

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Old 07-04-2024, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Apophis
How did you get “lessening of the ATL super base” from this announcement?

This is going to affect NYC and probably DTW more than ATL on 330.
Guys and gals will come out of the woodwork for a BOS base, but mostly senior NYC-based pilots (widebody.) The question is where the flying comes from to fund BOS and whether or not there will be backfills. More specifically: Which 330 base now has the most BOS departures.
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Old 07-04-2024, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Guys and gals will come out of the woodwork for a BOS base, but mostly senior NYC-based pilots (widebody.) The question is where the flying comes from to fund BOS and whether or not there will be backfills. More specifically: Which 330 base now has the most BOS departures.
Interesting because every 330 base does BOS flying. From a cursory search of the July bid packages, it looks like NYC does the most BOS flying on the 330….but even SEA does a decent amount.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The company opens bases when it is financially in their favor. 95% of that is trip credit and maybe 5% hotel costs. They don't care where pilots want to live or fly from.
your inability to pick up on clear sarcasm is frightening.
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Just talked to a friend who lives near BOS. He is not really happy with the base opening. Currently he does what I did as a commuter. Drops a good part of his schedule and picks up all the broken up W trips through Boston. There are also similar trips that can be picked up in the initial bid package. 4 day trips that fly as 3 day trips paying 21 hours with 14 hours of block were always a good thing. Plus you got PS at least one way.
Bidding reserve, sitting short call at home, and likely working even less for about the same pay sounds like an even better deal.
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Old 07-04-2024, 11:19 AM
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Wait…so hes not happy that will drive to work? I tell you man…pilots are special breed.

He rather commute to NY?
Always boggles my mind that someone would rather commute than drive to work
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Originally Posted by Apophis
How did you get “lessening of the ATL super base” from this announcement?

This is going to affect NYC and probably DTW more than ATL on 330.
Fangs already touched on it. Flying gets pulled into the new base from others as the rotations for that base are contrcuted. BOS was decided on because to have reliable orignating flights int'l you pretty much need a base there. BOS is becomign a big market for us now. The flow thru rotations that have BOS dept to Europe that are parts of trips which begin in another base were becoming problematic (fatigue, crew issues, weather dealys etc). Trips are now to be built BOS-XXX-BOS, most will be like this, sure some 6 days will flow in there but the reason those 6 days were constructed, ostensibly, was to position a jet and crew in BOS to then fly on to Europe. That should change now with the BOS base. The base has to be staffed, some say mostly NY folks but I think that will depend on several factors. Also, we are not winding down any flying in the NY base, so those trips need crews still. NY is a major NE hub, now we have 2. There will be some good movement and backfills into NY as well as maybe some other bases, but ATL being our largest pilot base will see some decrease as the BOS base picks up some of those trips with its own crews now. It's the 4th of July. I've got some grandkids on the way over so I got to get to grillin. You all have a great holiday, especially those of you out flying today
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Originally Posted by 24Whiskey
Also it was mentioned in a base visit about six weeks ago that BOS wasn’t being looked at for at least the next two years…
I remember a base visit at Memphis where they told us that the MEM base was a big part of Delta's future and that it would be around for the long haul. The next AE a few weeks later closed the base.
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Old 07-04-2024, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Fangs already touched on it. Flying gets pulled into the new base from others as the rotations for that base are contrcuted. BOS was decided on because to have reliable orignating flights int'l you pretty much need a base there. BOS is becomign a big market for us now. The flow thru rotations that have BOS dept to Europe that are parts of trips which begin in another base were becoming problematic (fatigue, crew issues, weather dealys etc). Trips are now to be built BOS-XXX-BOS, most will be like this, sure some 6 days will flow in there but the reason those 6 days were constructed, ostensibly, was to position a jet and crew in BOS to then fly on to Europe. That should change now with the BOS base. The base has to be staffed, some say mostly NY folks but I think that will depend on several factors. Also, we are not winding down any flying in the NY base, so those trips need crews still. NY is a major NE hub, now we have 2. There will be some good movement and backfills into NY as well as maybe some other bases, but ATL being our largest pilot base will see some decrease as the BOS base picks up some of those trips with its own crews now. It's the 4th of July. I've got some grandkids on the way over so I got to get to grillin. You all have a great holiday, especially those of you out flying today
It’s not my fleet, so I’m not as in the loop as 330 guys. But it doesn’t seem like your statement of “we are not winding down any flying in NY” is correct. The NYC 330 bid packages show a LOT of BOS trips, ostensibly at least some (most?)of that will be picked up by BOS once the base opens.

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