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Old 05-24-2024, 07:40 AM
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Is it true that a pilot requested that a recall be discussed at the next meeting, and that the C44 chairman created a set of non-prodecural hurdles to try to manipulate the process?
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Is it true that a pilot requested that a recall be discussed at the next meeting, and that the C44 chairman created a set of non-prodecural hurdles to try to manipulate the process?
would this surprise you in any way?
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Originally Posted by CaptKochblauch
Is it true that a pilot requested that a recall be discussed at the next meeting, and that the C44 chairman created a set of non-prodecural hurdles to try to manipulate the process?
Yes

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Yes

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That won’t play well with the masses. Folks don’t like to get played with silly games and maneuvers.
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Is it true that a pilot requested that a recall be discussed at the next meeting, and that the C44 chairman created a set of non-prodecural hurdles to try to manipulate the process?
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Yes

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Saw this on FB. What a mess. After the newspaper debacle I was already hoping those 6 reps would get recalled, but this is just another reason why this needs to happen

has it been shared what the hurdles are?
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Originally Posted by CaptKochblauch
Is it true that a pilot requested that a recall be discussed at the next meeting, and that the C44 chairman created a set of non-prodecural hurdles to try to manipulate the process?

He's too busy reading the paper....
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
Saw this on FB. What a mess. After the newspaper debacle I was already hoping those 6 reps would get recalled, but this is just another reason why this needs to happen

has it been shared what the hurdles are?
A C44 pilot in good standing followed the required procedure of requesting to have an agenda item (introducing motion to recall) to the next C44 council meeting. That's the only requirement per ALPA National and ALPA Constitution and Bylaws. The C44 Chairman told him that the full text of the motion is required and set an arbitrary deadline of today. The actual deadline per ALPA rules is 15 days prior to the meeting. Not sure if that's business days or actual days but a moot point since the meeting isn't until July.
So the C44 Chair is just making **** up as he goes in an effort to save his ass and that of the other reps.
My prediction is that DH the MEC chair sits idly by and does nothing. It might require getting ALPA legal involved to compel Archer to do his effing job per the ALPA rules.
This my friends is emblematic of deep rooted corruption. Time to clean the damn house.
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A C44 pilot in good standing followed the required procedure of requesting to have an agenda item (introducing motion to recall) to the next C44 council meeting. That's the only requirement per ALPA National and ALPA Constitution and Bylaws. The C44 Chairman told him that the full text of the motion is required and set an arbitrary deadline of today. The actual deadline per ALPA rules is 15 days prior to the meeting. Not sure if that's business days or actual days but a moot point since the meeting isn't until July.
So the C44 Chair is just making **** up as he goes in an effort to save his ass and that of the other reps.
My prediction is that DH the MEC chair sits idly by and does nothing. It might require getting ALPA legal involved to compel Archer to do his effing job per the ALPA rules.
This my friends is emblematic of deep rooted corruption. Time to clean the damn house.
Maybe he should vote himself another raise for all the hard work writing his own rules
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. It might require getting ALPA legal involved to compel Archer to do his effing job per the ALPA rules.
This my friends is emblematic of deep rooted corruption. Time to clean the damn house.
From the alpa website, it looks like the guy to contact is "Capt. Sean Creed, Vice President–Administration/Secretary," if he uses the same alpa email format as everyone else it would be [email protected]
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Originally Posted by flyingagain
A C44 pilot in good standing followed the required procedure of requesting to have an agenda item (introducing motion to recall) to the next C44 council meeting. That's the only requirement per ALPA National and ALPA Constitution and Bylaws. The C44 Chairman told him that the full text of the motion is required and set an arbitrary deadline of today. The actual deadline per ALPA rules is 15 days prior to the meeting. Not sure if that's business days or actual days but a moot point since the meeting isn't until July.
So the C44 Chair is just making **** up as he goes in an effort to save his ass and that of the other reps.
My prediction is that DH the MEC chair sits idly by and does nothing. It might require getting ALPA legal involved to compel Archer to do his effing job per the ALPA rules.
This my friends is emblematic of deep rooted corruption. Time to clean the damn house.
Not to address the main complaint, but the MEC chair has nothing to do with council business. There is literally no mechanism for any MEC officer involvement in any council affairs, nor would you want it that way, unless that officer was acting as an individual member and happened to be a member of that council.
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