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Old 05-26-2024, 09:38 AM
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I'm hearing the C44 chair, DA, is now trying to save his position by implying that C44 pilots will not be represented at the bi-annual ALPA National "Board of Directors" confab in LATE OCTOBER, which seems to be where all the reps from every airline meet to develop the next round of postition papers.

The irony here is that DA abohors ALPA National, the ALPA PAC, and anything union-related. But somehow he's trying to manipulate C44 pilots into thinking he is indespensible to the process. He is not. None of them are; nothing will change whether they are at the meeting or not. In fact, it might even go better for Delta ALPA if DA is excluded from the proceedings; he is highly polarizing and doesn't work well with others.

In any case, he is also being disingenous (standard ops) by implying that the recall is an all-or-nothing outcome. Each rep will have a separate ballot. Athough all four reps seem to be flawed, it might be best to focus the recall on the chair, DA...and the deadbeat, EM.

There is no legitimate explanation for EM's disappearance. He dropped out of the picture after the new contract started. I guess he figured green slips on the 350 were more important than the job he committed to. A boomer "quiet quitter" who won't actually quit, so former scheduling chairman SK won't take his place. This is exactly the hack behavior that turns off pilots from participating.

c44 becomes instantaneously more functional once those two guys are removed from office. I can't wait to hear their highly contrived excuses and desperate pleas to remain in office. Expect the arrogance, misdirection, and obfuscation to intensifiy.
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Old 05-26-2024, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
I'm hearing the C44 chair, DA, is now trying to save his position by implying that C44 pilots will not be represented at the bi-annual ALPA National "Board of Directors" confab in LATE OCTOBER, which seems to be where all the reps from every airline meet to develop the next round of postition papers.

The irony here is that DA abohors ALPA National, the ALPA PAC, and anything union-related. But somehow he's trying to manipulate C44 pilots into thinking he is indespensible to the process. He is not. None of them are; nothing will change whether they are at the meeting or not. In fact, it might even go better for Delta ALPA if DA is excluded from the proceedings; he is highly polarizing and doesn't work well with others.

In any case, he is also being disingenous (standard ops) by implying that the recall is an all-or-nothing outcome. Each rep will have a separate ballot. Athough all four reps seem to be flawed, it might be best to focus the recall on the chair, DA...and the deadbeat, EM.

There is no legitimate explanation for EM's disappearance. He dropped out of the picture after the new contract started. I guess he figured green slips on the 350 were more important than the job he committed to. A boomer "quiet quitter" who won't actually quit, so former scheduling chairman SK won't take his place. This is exactly the hack behavior that turns off pilots from participating.

c44 becomes instantaneously more functional once those two guys are removed from office. I can't wait to hear their highly contrived excuses and desperate pleas to remain in office. Expect the arrogance, misdirection, and obfuscation to intensifiy.
That's funny, won't they just no-show?
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Old 05-26-2024, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
I'm hearing the C44 chair, DA, is now trying to save his position by implying that C44 pilots will not be represented at the bi-annual ALPA National "Board of Directors" confab in LATE OCTOBER, which seems to be where all the reps from every airline meet to develop the next round of postition papers.

The irony here is that DA abohors ALPA National, the ALPA PAC, and anything union-related. But somehow he's trying to manipulate C44 pilots into thinking he is indespensible to the process. He is not. None of them are; nothing will change whether they are at the meeting or not. In fact, it might even go better for Delta ALPA if DA is excluded from the proceedings; he is highly polarizing and doesn't work well with others.

In any case, he is also being disingenous (standard ops) by implying that the recall is an all-or-nothing outcome. Each rep will have a separate ballot. Athough all four reps seem to be flawed, it might be best to focus the recall on the chair, DA...and the deadbeat, EM.

There is no legitimate explanation for EM's disappearance. He dropped out of the picture after the new contract started. I guess he figured green slips on the 350 were more important than the job he committed to. A boomer "quiet quitter" who won't actually quit, so former scheduling chairman SK won't take his place. This is exactly the hack behavior that turns off pilots from participating.

c44 becomes instantaneously more functional once those two guys are removed from office. I can't wait to hear their highly contrived excuses and desperate pleas to remain in office. Expect the arrogance, misdirection, and obfuscation to intensifiy.
What does a recall process look like for the members in c44? Does it require other LECs or the MEC to be involved? Can c44 heads just block the vote? (new to this as I've never seen a recall)
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Old 05-26-2024, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
I'm hearing the C44 chair, DA, is now trying to save his position by implying that C44 pilots will not be represented at the bi-annual ALPA National "Board of Directors" confab in LATE OCTOBER, which seems to be where all the reps from every airline meet to develop the next round of postition papers.

The irony here is that DA abohors ALPA National, the ALPA PAC, and anything union-related. But somehow he's trying to manipulate C44 pilots into thinking he is indespensible to the process. He is not. None of them are; nothing will change whether they are at the meeting or not. In fact, it might even go better for Delta ALPA if DA is excluded from the proceedings; he is highly polarizing and doesn't work well with others.

In any case, he is also being disingenous (standard ops) by implying that the recall is an all-or-nothing outcome. Each rep will have a separate ballot. Athough all four reps seem to be flawed, it might be best to focus the recall on the chair, DA...and the deadbeat, EM.

There is no legitimate explanation for EM's disappearance. He dropped out of the picture after the new contract started. I guess he figured green slips on the 350 were more important than the job he committed to. A boomer "quiet quitter" who won't actually quit, so former scheduling chairman SK won't take his place. This is exactly the hack behavior that turns off pilots from participating.

c44 becomes instantaneously more functional once those two guys are removed from office. I can't wait to hear their highly contrived excuses and desperate pleas to remain in office. Expect the arrogance, misdirection, and obfuscation to intensifiy.
The arrogance there is incredible. He actually believes he’d be representing C44 pilots if he attended. Good riddance to these guys.
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Old 05-26-2024, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
I'm hearing the C44 chair, DA, is now trying to save his position by implying that C44 pilots will not be represented at the bi-annual ALPA National "Board of Directors" confab in LATE OCTOBER, which seems to be where all the reps from every airline meet to develop the next round of postition papers.
If DA is successfully recalled, who will DALPA send to read newspapers during the discussions?

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Old 05-26-2024, 12:00 PM
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Surprised nobody is talking about KT. He needs to go just as much as the other guys.
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Old 05-26-2024, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper25
Surprised nobody is talking about KT. He needs to go just as much as the other guys.
Him and DA need to go.

Being the PMRC chair, he helped pushed through some of the more unpopular changes
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Old 05-26-2024, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper25
Surprised nobody is talking about KT. He needs to go just as much as the other guys.
I don't keep up with ALPA stuff so I'd like to hear why you say he should go too?
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Old 05-26-2024, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Razor
I don't keep up with ALPA stuff so I'd like to hear why you say he should go too?
Way too sympathetic to management. To a frightening level. I understand the philosophy that you can’t constantly poke management in the eye and expect to be productive, but he takes it wayyyyy too far. He naively believes we can have a harmonious relationship rather than a business one (particularly, one where management antagonizes the pilot group far more than the other way around). It’s as if he’s never read Flying The Line.

This is my take from the interactions I’ve had as well as anecdotes from others that have said the same.

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Old 06-01-2024, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey
Him and DA need to go.

Being the PMRC chair, he helped pushed through some of the more unpopular changes
What are the unpopular changes? I read through the PMRC stuff and I just don’t see what some of you are worked up about?
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