C44 Recall
06-11-2024, 06:28 AM
#312
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That’s $83 per year per Pilot….VERY VERY cheap. ACE recovered over $40,000 for me. Unless there’s a suitable replacement on deck….it needs to return post haste. And whoever decided to get rid of it needs to go…
06-11-2024, 06:30 AM
#313
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my guess was SIGNIFICANTLY more than that was recovered by ace, especially before our MEC gave away batch sizes.
06-11-2024, 07:22 AM
#314
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06-11-2024, 07:27 AM
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Exactly this. ACE netted me thousands. Under 7 dollars per month per pilot is a totally reasonable price for this. I don't understand pilots' cheapness or inability to grasp large numbers. Talk about stepping over a dollar to save a penny.
06-11-2024, 08:17 AM
#316
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I know it for a fact.
Not true. (It was about $1.3M for the last year, btw) There was a deal rejected by DH and his lawyers to permanently buy the reporting part of ACE for a fraction of that cost. Which would have plugged into the company’s ACE desktop application on their end, and enabled all the backend services in waiting, including AUTO-ID among others, to be offered as a side service, pay as you go.
But they didn’t want you to have that. Think about that for a second. Extraordinarily short sighted at best…
At $1.5 million per year indefinitely, it was time to step away from ACE.
But they didn’t want you to have that. Think about that for a second. Extraordinarily short sighted at best…
06-11-2024, 08:25 AM
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I know it for a fact.
Not true. (It was about $1.3M for the last year, btw) There was a deal rejected by DH and his lawyers to permanently buy the reporting part of ACE for a fraction of that cost. Which would have plugged into the company’s ACE desktop application on their end, and enabled all the backend services in waiting, including AUTO-ID among others, to be offered as a side service, pay as you go.
But they didn’t want you to have that. Think about that for a second. Extraordinarily short sighted at best…
Not true. (It was about $1.3M for the last year, btw) There was a deal rejected by DH and his lawyers to permanently buy the reporting part of ACE for a fraction of that cost. Which would have plugged into the company’s ACE desktop application on their end, and enabled all the backend services in waiting, including AUTO-ID among others, to be offered as a side service, pay as you go.
But they didn’t want you to have that. Think about that for a second. Extraordinarily short sighted at best…
but it’s from the same person who gave away batch sizes for nothing, so I can’t say I’m surprised.
06-11-2024, 08:28 AM
#318
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"ACE" did not, the sched volunteers reviewing the report did.
06-11-2024, 08:31 AM
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06-11-2024, 09:18 AM
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"But for" ACE, we would still be at $4M recoered annually instead of $20+M, and the behavior of the company would not have changed, and we would not have sercured many of the provisions in C19 we did.
But sure, the scheduing volunteers deserve credit for doing thier work.
And again, there were a plethora of big wins just around the corner that got thrown out the window along with the investment ALPA put into developing them.
But sure, the scheduing volunteers deserve credit for doing thier work.
And again, there were a plethora of big wins just around the corner that got thrown out the window along with the investment ALPA put into developing them.
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