C44 Recall
05-24-2024, 11:42 AM
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A C44 pilot in good standing followed the required procedure of requesting to have an agenda item (introducing motion to recall) to the next C44 council meeting. That's the only requirement per ALPA National and ALPA Constitution and Bylaws. The C44 Chairman told him that the full text of the motion is required and set an arbitrary deadline of today. The actual deadline per ALPA rules is 15 days prior to the meeting. Not sure if that's business days or actual days but a moot point since the meeting isn't until July.
That is next level corruption. Idk if DH can intervene but I bet Alpa legal can. time to vote them all out.
05-24-2024, 12:18 PM
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05-24-2024, 01:52 PM
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short story. DTW and ATL reps were being unbelievably petty towards the SLC CA rep and anytime he spoke at the last MEC meeting they would take out a physical newspaper and read it until he was done speaking.
longer story. SLC just recalled their FO rep. That rep split from the SLC CA rep and sided with ATL and DTW on quite a few issues including 23m7 and the recent PRMC changes. For those reasons and several others, like his use of APLA travel days for lounge week when he lived locally, he was recalled by a significant margin. DTW put out a comm in the wake of that blaming the CA rep for the recall and saying he split the pilot group. (Even though the recall seemed to be a more grassroots effort by council members). As a protest they did what I described above this last week. their actions were totally devoid of any semblance of professionalism.
The SLC FO rep seemed to be the 9th vote on 9-8 decisions and DTW and ATL seem upset they no longer have that vote
longer story. SLC just recalled their FO rep. That rep split from the SLC CA rep and sided with ATL and DTW on quite a few issues including 23m7 and the recent PRMC changes. For those reasons and several others, like his use of APLA travel days for lounge week when he lived locally, he was recalled by a significant margin. DTW put out a comm in the wake of that blaming the CA rep for the recall and saying he split the pilot group. (Even though the recall seemed to be a more grassroots effort by council members). As a protest they did what I described above this last week. their actions were totally devoid of any semblance of professionalism.
The SLC FO rep seemed to be the 9th vote on 9-8 decisions and DTW and ATL seem upset they no longer have that vote
05-24-2024, 02:06 PM
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05-24-2024, 02:07 PM
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short story. DTW and ATL reps were being unbelievably petty towards the SLC CA rep and anytime he spoke at the last MEC meeting they would take out a physical newspaper and read it until he was done speaking.
longer story. SLC just recalled their FO rep. That rep split from the SLC CA rep and sided with ATL and DTW on quite a few issues including 23m7 and the recent PRMC changes. For those reasons and several others, like his use of APLA travel days for lounge week when he lived locally, he was recalled by a significant margin. DTW put out a comm in the wake of that blaming the CA rep for the recall and saying he split the pilot group. (Even though the recall seemed to be a more grassroots effort by council members). As a protest they did what I described above this last week. their actions were totally devoid of any semblance of professionalism.
The SLC FO rep seemed to be the 9th vote on 9-8 decisions and DTW and ATL seem upset they no longer have that vote
longer story. SLC just recalled their FO rep. That rep split from the SLC CA rep and sided with ATL and DTW on quite a few issues including 23m7 and the recent PRMC changes. For those reasons and several others, like his use of APLA travel days for lounge week when he lived locally, he was recalled by a significant margin. DTW put out a comm in the wake of that blaming the CA rep for the recall and saying he split the pilot group. (Even though the recall seemed to be a more grassroots effort by council members). As a protest they did what I described above this last week. their actions were totally devoid of any semblance of professionalism.
The SLC FO rep seemed to be the 9th vote on 9-8 decisions and DTW and ATL seem upset they no longer have that vote
Have not been following the vote split, but I think C44 still has a one vote margin.
Don't know enough to have an opinion on how the vote should go, but the C20 defense of 44 spread the fire to Atlanta.
We got a pretty good contract. It may not be the data point this hinges on, but politically, results do matter.
05-24-2024, 02:15 PM
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C44 even out a template on their website and some participated in running a recall on their Reps (circle of life in C44 I guess) so they know how to do it and have done it.
I mean, if a guy writes his counsel and asks for it, being obstructionist is not going to change anything.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 05-24-2024 at 02:45 PM.
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