Originally Posted by nick bradshaw

junior could stand to learn his history. Age 60 retirement was a gift to the industry from none other than american's cr smith because he was mad that he lost an arbitration and a strike over the issue, so he appealed directly to his buddy, the faa administrator to get the age 60 rule imposed. It was done in a record 10 months. Alpa (back when they actually represented pilots) fought it for decades because they saw it as the arbitrary and unfair discrimination it was. It only existed to help the airlines financially, because the airlines claimed the pilots cost too much to train. In reality, the airlines wanted to push the high pay scale experienced pilots out. It's worth noting that these senior pilots were also running alpa at the time.

Now alpa supports it because reasons. They did a complete flip flop because alpa knows that junior is the future of their income and has ther numbers. They have no use for those of us who spent 30-40 years supporting them and holding this industry up during the dark days of wars, mergers, lost pensions, and bankruptcies. Junior has only been here for the good times and couldn't care less about history and just wants his. Oh well.

Originally Posted by nick bradshaw

1.so you're ok with mob rule? As long as you're in the mob. Got it.
2. In my day, parents taught kids to respect their elders. That lesson is lost nowadays. Experience is a libility. Dei hiring is a policy.


Funny. We just got groundbreaking maternity policies in the pwa. Does that serve the majority? What did the majority give up to secure that? But you couldn't be bothered to help the elders out. You want it all and get out of your seat.

The greatest generation were my parents. They won a world war. You are the spoiled me generation. That's why china will be taking this country over.

As for 2 pilots in the cockpit and rest requirements? It's your union now. You deal with it. I hope it works out better for you than it did for us.

Originally Posted by FangsF15

Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw

1.So you're ok with mob rule? As long as you're in the mob. Got it.
2. In my day, parents taught kids to respect their elders. That lesson is lost nowadays. Experience is a libility. DEI hiring is a policy.



Funny. We just got groundbreaking maternity policies in the PWA. Does that serve the majority? What did the majority give up to secure that? But you couldn't be bothered to help the elders out. You want it all and get out of your seat.

The Greatest Generation were my parents. They won a world war. You are the spoiled me generation. That's why China will be taking this country over.

As for 2 pilots in the cockpit and rest requirements? It's your union now. You deal with it. I hope it works out better for you than it did for us.

Originally Posted by OOfff

boomers really love telling you how great their parents’ generation was as if that reflects upon them in any way

Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw

Junior could stand to learn his history. Age 60 retirement was a gift to the industry from none other than American's CR Smith because he was mad that he lost an arbitration and a strike over the issue, so he appealed directly to his buddy, the FAA administrator to get the Age 60 rule imposed. It was done in a record 10 months. ALPA (back when they actually represented pilots) fought it for decades because they saw it as the arbitrary and unfair discrimination it was. It only existed to help the airlines financially, because the airlines claimed the pilots cost too much to train. In reality, the airlines wanted to push the high pay scale experienced pilots out. It's worth noting that these senior pilots were also running ALPA at the time.

Originally Posted by Puddytatt

Hey chief, you forgot to use a lowercase p twice in that rant. You're slipping.

Originally Posted by Puddytatt

Hey chief, you forgot to use a lowercase p twice in that rant. You're slipping.

Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw

1.So you're ok with mob rule? As long as you're in the mob. Got it.


Funny. We just got groundbreaking maternity policies in the PWA. Does that serve the majority? What did the majority give up to secure that? But you couldn't be bothered to help the elders out. You want it all and get out of your seat.

The Greatest Generation were my parents. They won a world war. You are the spoiled me generation. That's why China will be taking this country over.

Originally Posted by Gunfighter

I get the sense that "junior" is about as clearly defined as "dead zoner". Can I be "junior" if I'm in the top 1/2 of the list? Top 1/3? Top 1/4?