You know what grinds my gears....
01-18-2024, 11:49 AM
#51
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Joined APC: Oct 2007
Position: Fairly local
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Exactly.
It’s funny how Covid flipped that practice upside down. Before, there were pilots that would actually go to the effort of looking up your personal details on iCrew to message, or worse, call to berate the previous pilot for NOT plugging the ships set back in. Un-effing-believable.
Now, it’s 100% the opposite (except for the text/phone call BS). It’s just weird to find a ship set still plugged in. WTFIWWY?? 😂
It’s funny how Covid flipped that practice upside down. Before, there were pilots that would actually go to the effort of looking up your personal details on iCrew to message, or worse, call to berate the previous pilot for NOT plugging the ships set back in. Un-effing-believable.
Now, it’s 100% the opposite (except for the text/phone call BS). It’s just weird to find a ship set still plugged in. WTFIWWY?? 😂
If I’m doing something procedurally incorrectly, please tell me. If it’s just your different technique, shut your pie hole.
01-18-2024, 12:02 PM
#52
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: B737 FO
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Pushing LNAV "for me" before I brief the takeoff at the gate. It's my cue on if I've briefed you already. It's not required to even select it on the ground so stop pushing it if it isn't your leg.
LCA's who "aren't wearing their check airman hat this trip" then procede to "wear their check airman hat" all trip. You can take the LCA off the maddog, but you can't take the maddog out of the LCA.
LCA's who "aren't wearing their check airman hat this trip" then procede to "wear their check airman hat" all trip. You can take the LCA off the maddog, but you can't take the maddog out of the LCA.
I think as long as you leave the checklist unfolded when you jam it in the 73's checklist holder all is fine, I like folding it in half to read it. The fold does hinder its performance as a sunshade though.
01-18-2024, 12:23 PM
#53
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
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I never knew this one rankled people. I'd still rather ruffle some feathers than take-off without LNAV armed on an RNAV departure. I always went by whomever remembers first hits the button.
I think as long as you leave the checklist unfolded when you jam it in the 73's checklist holder all is fine, I like folding it in half to read it. The fold does hinder its performance as a sunshade though.
I think as long as you leave the checklist unfolded when you jam it in the 73's checklist holder all is fine, I like folding it in half to read it. The fold does hinder its performance as a sunshade though.
01-18-2024, 12:26 PM
#54
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Posts: 5,657
This is actually a hot topic right now. There have been several runway incursions due to FO being heads down and Captain not fully understanding taxi instructions. Places like BOS and JFK are elevated risk for runway incursions when the FO is heads down. There is no rush to get the after landing checklist down, nor is there any rush to check on the gate.
01-18-2024, 12:28 PM
#55
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Pushing LNAV "for me" before I brief the takeoff at the gate. It's my cue on if I've briefed you already. It's not required to even select it on the ground so stop pushing it if it isn't your leg.
LCA's who "aren't wearing their check airman hat this trip" then procede to "wear their check airman hat" all trip. You can take the LCA off the maddog, but you can't take the maddog out of the LCA.
LCA's who "aren't wearing their check airman hat this trip" then procede to "wear their check airman hat" all trip. You can take the LCA off the maddog, but you can't take the maddog out of the LCA.
01-18-2024, 12:34 PM
#56
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Had one bark at me for not getting them up once, after I said "I'll grab them after we cross the inboard runway, and stay heads up with you". Didn't know 300ft made a difference...
Or guys saying "it's 30.05 at the field" for arrival when we set standard on climb. I'm not worried, we've got 4 hours to go, and without a doubt it'll change slightly when we get there, so we have to fiddle with it anyways...
Or guys saying "it's 30.05 at the field" for arrival when we set standard on climb. I'm not worried, we've got 4 hours to go, and without a doubt it'll change slightly when we get there, so we have to fiddle with it anyways...
Also, the fleet actually put out a new video recently which emphasizes to get the taxi clearance correct first, then start going head's down and calling for checklists... Which is a solid technique.
For any FO's out there, I'd much rather you help me get the taxi clearance right before going head's down, be it for a checklist or freq change, especially at busy/unfamiliar/dark fields.
01-18-2024, 12:41 PM
#57
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If someone hit it then, even if it’s not RNAV off the ground, you’d catch it multiple times before departure roll (at least on the ER). That seriously wouldn’t bother me in the least. What if you forgot to log onto ATC for the clearance? Want me to ask you if that’s okay too?
01-18-2024, 12:48 PM
#58
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Had one bark at me for not getting them up once, after I said "I'll grab them after we cross the inboard runway, and stay heads up with you". Didn't know 300ft made a difference...
Or guys saying "it's 30.05 at the field" for arrival when we set standard on climb. I'm not worried, we've got 4 hours to go, and without a doubt it'll change slightly when we get there, so we have to fiddle with it anyways...
Or guys saying "it's 30.05 at the field" for arrival when we set standard on climb. I'm not worried, we've got 4 hours to go, and without a doubt it'll change slightly when we get there, so we have to fiddle with it anyways...
01-18-2024, 12:57 PM
#59
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Eh, that’s a bit much if you ask me. You’re talking during cockpit setup right? Before the preflight checklist?
If someone hit it then, even if it’s not RNAV off the ground, you’d catch it multiple times before departure roll (at least on the ER). That seriously wouldn’t bother me in the least. What if you forgot to log onto ATC for the clearance? Want me to ask you if that’s okay too?
If someone hit it then, even if it’s not RNAV off the ground, you’d catch it multiple times before departure roll (at least on the ER). That seriously wouldn’t bother me in the least. What if you forgot to log onto ATC for the clearance? Want me to ask you if that’s okay too?
01-18-2024, 01:02 PM
#60
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Position: 737 A
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Eh, that’s a bit much if you ask me. You’re talking during cockpit setup right? Before the preflight checklist?
If someone hit it then, even if it’s not RNAV off the ground, you’d catch it multiple times before departure roll (at least on the ER). That seriously wouldn’t bother me in the least. What if you forgot to log onto ATC for the clearance? Want me to ask you if that’s okay too?
If someone hit it then, even if it’s not RNAV off the ground, you’d catch it multiple times before departure roll (at least on the ER). That seriously wouldn’t bother me in the least. What if you forgot to log onto ATC for the clearance? Want me to ask you if that’s okay too?
Get a new reminder/indicator for if you’ve done your brief if that’s all this is about.
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