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Old 01-18-2024, 08:25 AM
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I was wondering the same thing! Came from a mil background, so my view is limited
Yeah, we know.
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Old 01-18-2024, 08:32 AM
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Harrrumph.
mayor, point if order, light grey dudes are not fiends.
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Old 01-18-2024, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by palooza
agree. Ship’s headset 100% on my fleet. Actually never flown with anyone who brought one…including after Covid. I won’t look someone up for this on icrew😂, but plug the dumb thing back in. Plenty of people don’t want to carry a headset around
No, never, ever. I refuse on priciple. At least on the 320 the vast, vast majority have thier own headseat.
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Old 01-18-2024, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
No, never, ever. I refuse on priciple. At least on the 320 the vast, vast majority have thier own headseat.
ok. Guess it doesn’t grind my gears as much as others. But apparently you’re the opposite of the guys looking people up in icrew. I get it on an up and down fleet you get tired of it.

side question, do you put the toilet seat down for your wife? Totally unrelated…😂
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Old 01-18-2024, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Ok now you’re grinding MY gears 😉

Maybe just pick it up like the rest of the world does it? There are some human factors benefits analogous to why we point at the FMA, FCU, etc. If I get interrupted mid checklist, maybe I’ll ask myself why I’m still holding it in my hand? I have had to ask an FO to actually read the checklist. I know you’re good. We all have it memorized. There’s a reason we do it this way. Slow is pro.

To add to the list, FO’s (not singling them out other than they run the radio on the ground) that speed switch to the next frequency while we’re still on/crossing an active runway. Even worse, before we’ve entered the runway. Contact ground “other side” is plenty fast enough. Maybe the tower guy or another airplane gives us a hint that I screwed up and somebody can save the situation. What’s the hurry?
I see both sides of this one. I grew up being expected to be on freq for whoever owned the pavement. But... Once you are over half-way, there's no turning back anyway. And, in busy places like ATL, LGA, etc Ground is often talking to you before your butt has even crossed the line, much less the tail. So FO's get conditioned to switch in time to catch that call. But you are right some can do it too early.
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Old 01-18-2024, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by palooza
ok. Guess it doesn’t grind my gears as much as others. But apparently you’re the opposite of the guys looking people up in icrew. I get it on an up and down fleet you get tired of it.

side question, do you put the toilet seat down for your wife? Totally unrelated…😂
Lol, nice one.
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Old 01-18-2024, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by palooza
I won’t look someone up for this on icrew😂, but plug the dumb thing back in.
Well now I’m unplugging it and tying the cord in a knot, just for you. :lol:
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Old 01-18-2024, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Ok now you’re grinding MY gears 😉

Maybe just pick it up like the rest of the world does it? There are some human factors benefits analogous to why we point at the FMA, FCU, etc. If I get interrupted mid checklist, maybe I’ll ask myself why I’m still holding it in my hand? I have had to ask an FO to actually read the checklist. I know you’re good. We all have it memorized. There’s a reason we do it this way. Slow is pro.

To add to the list, FO’s (not singling them out other than they run the radio on the ground) that speed switch to the next frequency while we’re still on/crossing an active runway. Even worse, before we’ve entered the runway. Contact ground “other side” is plenty fast enough. Maybe the tower guy or another airplane gives us a hint that I screwed up and somebody can save the situation. What’s the hurry?
A lot of SWA pilots just leave it clipped in the yoke chart holder. I am reading it. Why does it matter from that it's not in my hand? There is definitely a difference between the HF implications of holding a checklist vs not holding a checklist and pointing when required vs not pointing.
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Fangs beat me to it. If in already halfway across and have verified no one on the runway, not switching only delays getting told to give way to the aircraft on a collision course on the ground. Stopping on the runway is never advised.

Also, I start slowing and switch to tower a mile outside of the marker in ATL.
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Old 01-18-2024, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey
Well now I’m unplugging it and tying the cord in a knot, just for you. :lol:
nice. I’ll bring my 3D printed headset hole plugs so nothing can be inserted😂 before removal regardless of preference. We’ll all suffer together!
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Old 01-18-2024, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
I see both sides of this one. I grew up being expected to be on freq for whoever owned the pavement. But... Once you are over half-way, there's no turning back anyway. And, in busy places like ATL, LGA, etc Ground is often talking to you before your butt has even crossed the line, much less the tail. So FO's get conditioned to switch in time to catch that call. But you are right some can do it too early.
Ah yes…the plight of the FO.

You switch too late for some CAs, too early for others.

It might be the hardest part of my job
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