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Old 04-17-2024, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJphlyer
At this point who even cares? The vast majority of pilots aren’t for increasing the mandatory retirement age. What’s to stop a Delta pilot from introducing a resolution at a local council meeting directing the MEC to pursue a mandatory retirement age for all Delta pilots of 65?

Or, here’s another scenario… ICAO doesn’t reciprocate (why would they?) and those pilots are forced back to narrowbodies flying 3-4 legs /day and decide that going out on LTD is a better scenario. In 1 year DPMA is close to being insolvent.
Should 67 pass there would be no legal standing for DALPA to pursue a limit of 65 for our seniority list, regardless of what the majority wants.

Going out on LTD is also not something anyone can do on a whim, regardless of what pilots like to say when talking about retiring early. Personally I'd very much like to continue with the status quo and not experience the chaos of 67 without ICAO being on board.
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Old 04-17-2024, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJphlyer
At this point who even cares? The vast majority of pilots aren’t for increasing the mandatory retirement age. What’s to stop a Delta pilot from introducing a resolution at a local council meeting directing the MEC to pursue a mandatory retirement age for all Delta pilots of 65?

Or, here’s another scenario… ICAO doesn’t reciprocate (why would they?) and those pilots are forced back to narrowbodies flying 3-4 legs /day and decide that going out on LTD is a better scenario. In 1 year DPMA is close to being insolvent.
Just guessing, but I could see them (Congress) latching age 67 onto ICAO’s increase. It’s a political win win for both sides and punts it down the road.

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Old 04-17-2024, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MongoC5
Just guessing, but I could see them (Congress) latching age 67 onto ICAO’s increase. It’s a political win win for both sides and punts it down the road.

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With thier 'shortage' arguments now obliterated by hiring slowdowns, furloughs at Spirit, etc, the 67 crowd is clinging onto a near-impossible sliver of hope that it will get slipped into the final bill. But it if does, this is the most likley scenario. The vairous CEO's have made clear to Congress the chaos which will result in preemting ICAO (on top of the wider sentiment of, "just don't").
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Old 04-17-2024, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by myrkridia
Going out on LTD is also not something anyone can do on a whim, regardless of what pilots like to say when talking about retiring early.
“I slipped and fell and hit my head pretty hard doc. I lost consciousness for and indeterminant amount of time.”

…See you in retirement…
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Old 04-17-2024, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJphlyer
“I slipped and fell and hit my head pretty hard doc. I lost consciousness for and indeterminant amount of time.”

…See you in retirement…
I read your response in the C81 recall thread, something about a disgrace to the profession. While I agree with you in that thread, you lose me quickly with this post. Potatoe/Potato comes to mind.
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Old 04-17-2024, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJphlyer
“I slipped and fell and hit my head pretty hard doc. I lost consciousness for and indeterminant amount of time.”

…See you in retirement…
This POV is naive at best.
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Old 04-17-2024, 06:51 AM
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Just want to know how this is different than a military pilot retiring from flying tankers,, claiming 100% VA disability and then taking a Delta pilot job and flying 80+ hours a month in a 767? Honor and all... I've met ODAs who have been shot and hit with grenades that aren't even 80% disabled.
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Originally Posted by CRJphlyer
“I slipped and fell and hit my head pretty hard doc. I lost consciousness for and indeterminant amount of time.”

…See you in retirement…
That particular scenario isn’t disqualifying at all.
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Old 04-17-2024, 08:06 AM
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Just want to know how this is different than a military pilot retiring from flying tankers,, claiming 100% VA disability and then taking a Delta pilot job and flying 80+ hours a month in a 767? Honor and all... I've met ODAs who have been shot and hit with grenades that aren't even 80% disabled.
I'm not sure you actually comprehend how the VA disability system works, how the percentages are determined, or how they combine into a final number. That's not meant as an insult, few people do. I didn't until I got knee-deep into it myself post intitial rating and additional medical events.

Congress set the law and percentages, and I will not criticize anyone for properly getting what congress authorized them. Full stop. (Notwithstanding the large numbers of folks who falsely claim conditions they don't really have, or more often, don't have at the claimed severity level - there is a whole cottage industry of 'providers' who will write DBQ's to your liking for a certain 'fee'. That's not what I'm talking about).

That said, lots of pilots here with legitimate 80/90/100% disability ratings, fully above board, and known by the FAA. You would be surprised how a couple large conditions can combine for such a rating. It is a common misconception that a 100% VA "Disability Rating" means you can't work, or walk, or... It is nothing of the sort. Nothing. It's unfortunate they use a % with the "disability rating", because it's not actually percent disabled - which leads to confusion. Further, few people realize there are many levels above "100%" for those who have lost limbs, need live-in assistance, etc. Go look up "SMC rates".

Unless you are talking about people who falsify their claim, I caution you not to question anyone's honor.
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Old 04-17-2024, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
I thought Age 67 was dead?
The Dead Parrot skit from Monty Python applies.
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