Prepare Yourselves… 2024 AEs
04-11-2024, 08:36 AM
#641
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I could be wrong but if we are in a steady state of not hiring and not laying off , wouldn’t the Company pretty much leave things alone and not do displacements and possibly start with AEs (not VDs or MDs) and see if people move where they want?
EDIT: There has probably never been a steady state so you are right - either hiring or laying off therefore displacements.
EDIT: There has probably never been a steady state so you are right - either hiring or laying off therefore displacements.
04-11-2024, 09:14 AM
#642
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We are a looooong way from displacements, excepting 7ER drawdown/consolidation for final closure in the 2030’s.
04-11-2024, 09:47 AM
#643
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Smells like it would abrogate seniority. I.e. if a senior person who also wants to swap to the other base gets passed over because junior made a deal with a pilot in the other base, abrogation. The AE process already provides a seniority-driven path to swapping bases. But yea, continuing to be monthly would be nice.
04-11-2024, 10:32 AM
#644
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Smells like it would abrogate seniority. I.e. if a senior person who also wants to swap to the other base gets passed over because junior made a deal with a pilot in the other base, abrogation. The AE process already provides a seniority-driven path to swapping bases. But yea, continuing to be monthly would be nice.
edit: seems simple enough, but I also don’t think delta can limit it to swaps only. So Delta potentially eats a training bill if the senior person wants to change planes to a diff plane and base. Also creating another secondary opening that may require training.
Any other swap system would have to get some kind of Union approval and I’m sure whatever process they came up with would protect seniority.
04-11-2024, 11:50 AM
#645
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We aren’t stopping hiring. Maybe slowing/pausing for a few months of summer. And then at a more normal rate after. Projected 1000 next year as well. Until Covid, 1000/year was a banner year.
We are a looooong way from displacements, excepting 7ER drawdown/consolidation for final closure in the 2030’s.
We are a looooong way from displacements, excepting 7ER drawdown/consolidation for final closure in the 2030’s.
04-11-2024, 12:59 PM
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04-11-2024, 01:15 PM
#647
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I haven't heard anything since the pandemic other than the 2030 drawdown date. With Boeing, and to a lesser extent Airbus, falling behind on deliveries, I would expect them to stay to 2030 or beyond unless there is a massive economic downturn.
04-11-2024, 01:17 PM
#648
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The long term plan changes every six months, but the latest is 85 717s active this year and remaining until 2030 ish. They have purchased 15+ in the last year or two only to be used for parts - so we're told.
04-12-2024, 09:05 AM
#649
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I could be wrong but if we are in a steady state of not hiring and not laying off , wouldn’t the Company pretty much leave things alone and not do displacements and possibly start with AEs (not VDs or MDs) and see if people move where they want?
EDIT: There has probably never been a steady state so you are right - either hiring or laying off therefore displacements.
EDIT: There has probably never been a steady state so you are right - either hiring or laying off therefore displacements.
04-12-2024, 09:37 AM
#650
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Smells like it would abrogate seniority. I.e. if a senior person who also wants to swap to the other base gets passed over because junior made a deal with a pilot in the other base, abrogation. The AE process already provides a seniority-driven path to swapping bases. But yea, continuing to be monthly would be nice.
AA has this. It works well over there.
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