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Old 01-05-2024, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
That is true. But it's funny because if they want people to bid off LAX 7ER A/B, in general those people aren't going to unless the company offers a better alternative. 5/10 LAX A350 A/B might drive a few to bid off via primary and secondary positions, but really, where does BS expect those 7ER pilots to want to go otherwise?
yeah, what he said.
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Old 01-05-2024, 07:21 AM
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Are they really hoping pilots bid from LAX to NYC? How does that make sense to or for anyone?? Or as long as they bid off lax ER, to another LAX seat, that also drives the equation the correct direction? In which case you would have thought there would be more LAX seats on the bid?
Yeah I am LAX ER and I can assure you I am not bidding anything ATL/NYC so I don’t really get it either. There are some (very few) who wouldn’t fly anything non Boeing WB and already commute, but I don’t get it. Just a few AE’s ago we had massive growth on LAX ER. Now it’s saying bid off it. I can’t keep up lol
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Old 01-05-2024, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
Are they really hoping pilots bid from LAX to NYC? How does that make sense to or for anyone?? Or as long as they bid off lax ER, to another LAX seat, that also drives the equation the correct direction? In which case you would have thought there would be more LAX seats on the bid?
Thats usually what they do. But other than the 350, there isn't a higher paying plane out there. It's not much of a cut to go to the A320 or 737, but it's still a pay cut. In MSP, when they closed the MD88 base, they added a lot of A320 and 737 seats to absorb the displacements and that added juniority in MSP still exists today.
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Old 01-05-2024, 07:24 AM
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whys that? I did see it says next few AE’s won’t be as strong but also kinda contradicts the hiring plan being strong front half and not back half. Maybe what we can expect is just not a lot of growth anymore and everyone in place for the summer?

I believe there’s almost 800 pilots scheduled to start class by beginning of May. You’ll probably just see fo positions for new hires for the foreseeable future. If age 67 happens, look at stagnation for a couple years.
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Yeah I am LAX ER and I can assure you I am not bidding anything ATL/NYC so I don’t really get it either. There are some (very few) who wouldn’t fly anything non Boeing WB and already commute, but I don’t get it. Just a few AE’s ago we had massive growth on LAX ER. Now it’s saying bid off it. I can’t keep up lol
The ONLY thing consistent in this industry is CHANGE.
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I believe there’s almost 800 pilots scheduled to start class by beginning of May. You’ll probably just see fo positions for new hires for the foreseeable future. If age 67 happens, look at stagnation for a couple years.
Yeah if 67 comes then it will be interesting to see what happens. Also because we don’t have a conclusion on international flying either and it appears ICAO is not in any push to move quickly like our government claims. Or we get to March and they just extend temporary again because it’s an election year…
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Old 01-05-2024, 07:47 AM
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Yeah if 67 comes then it will be interesting to see what happens. Also because we don’t have a conclusion on international flying either and it appears ICAO is not in any push to move quickly like our government claims. Or we get to March and they just extend temporary again because it’s an election year…
FWIW.... The DoD has been told to plan on CR funding through the remainder of the FY. This has become the norm for some time. I don't see a completed budget this FY. The FAA can and will be funded partially through the CR process.
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FWIW.... The DoD has been told to plan on CR funding through the remainder of the FY. This has become the norm for some time. I don't see a completed budget this FY. The FAA can and will be funded partially through the CR process.
The FAA reauthorization bill (where 67 would be approved) is independent and separate from the annual appropriations process (which is what a CR would be affecting).

that’s not to say the same gridlock affecting the approps process won’t also affect the FAA reauthorization, leading to another extension of the status quo.
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Old 01-05-2024, 08:14 AM
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From the AE Memo:
As the number of posted positions comes down, please review your standing bids carefully to ensure that the bids match your current preferences. Historically, we have seen more secondary movements as the number of posted positions come down.
It's been said many times before, but always bears repeating, especially when CR themselves remind you: BWYWWWYB. There WILL be many awarded positions which are unposted in the AE. You will not get one if you don't have a bid in. So make sure you include every position you are willing to do, regardless of what the AE memo says. It will ever be thus.
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The FAA reauthorization bill (where 67 would be approved) is independent and separate from the annual appropriations process (which is what a CR would be affecting).

that’s not to say the same gridlock affecting the approps process won’t also affect the FAA reauthorization, leading to another extension of the status quo.
I think with the way things are in Congress and the potential historic nature of the FAA Reauthorization, it'll either be a late summer pass or CR until next Congress. Peoples memories are short and everyone will want this "win" to be on their minds going to the polls in Nov
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