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Old 03-09-2024, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
LAX isn’t much of an NFL charter base anymore. We do majority NBA/NHL and that is almost exclusively night flight and 2 leg redeye flying. Canada in winter, sometimes having long layovers in Canada since they don’t repo into NBA as much. NBA charters suck because we do almost the whole league, so they always need the plane repo’d somewhere after you land.

What you are describing is <5% of our charter flying. It’s 3-5 day trips where you go from redeye mid rotation to day layovers, to normal passenger ops. It’s not very lucrative and definitely the most junior ER trips.
those trips in the bid packet are exactly what is keeping me from bidding LAX ER.

How many actually go as planned tho? Most seem pretty fatiguing.
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Old 03-09-2024, 06:56 AM
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YES. Charters suck
Well I liked them
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Old 03-09-2024, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DenVa
those trips in the bid packet are exactly what is keeping me from bidding LAX ER.

How many actually go as planned tho? Most seem pretty fatiguing.
Same could be said for any trip, it’s call a reroute. Except with the charter you aren’t sitting in a terminal with all the neck pillows. I’ve hung out in some decent FBOs and run into some cool people. It’s a nice change from the domestic NB grind.
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I did a fair amount of charters on previous fleets and was never a fan. Too much sitting around and a bunch of extra threats for the same pay. I want this job to be as bland/boring as possible and I'll let others have the "excitement" of something new/different. I just want to show up, fly my standard places and go home. I'll get my excitement flying on my own time. We don't get many on my current fleet, so it's not really an issue for now. I'm glad we have those who like them.
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Another reason I'm looking at the 7ER. Some of that charter flying looks pretty cool and the food is just icing on the cake.
You can have them. Parking in GA ramps next to Bonanzas and Cessnas with marshallers who have no concept of our hand signals or salutes, pax always late, getting from the FBO to the terminal or vice-versa. A lot of added headache and threats with no override.

Plus, I can't go back and make my servant leader PA because the FA's get mad.
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
You can have them. Parking in GA ramps next to Bonanzas and Cessnas with marshallers who have no concept of our hand signals or salutes, pax always late, getting from the FBO to the terminal or vice-versa. A lot of added headache and threats with no override.

Plus, I can't go back and make my servant leader PA because the FA's get mad.
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Old 03-09-2024, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DenVa
those trips in the bid packet are exactly what is keeping me from bidding LAX ER.

How many actually go as planned tho? Most seem pretty fatiguing.
if you’re above 55-60%, LAX has some great trips. But if you’re below 60% then yes you’re in the danger zone of Atlanta.

I am 30% as a B and have landed in Atlanta once in 16 months, and fly about 80-90% international trips so I specifically avoid that crap, lol. But that’s pretty much ER in a nutshell. If you’re senior you will get some good flying. If you’re junior below like 70% you’re in the danger zone of the really crappy ER flying.
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
You can have them. Parking in GA ramps next to Bonanzas and Cessnas with marshallers who have no concept of our hand signals or salutes, pax always late, getting from the FBO to the terminal or vice-versa. A lot of added headache and threats with no override.

Plus, I can't go back and make my servant leader PA because the FA's get mad.
When I was an ER FO I always got a chuckle out of the captains who would make a full set of passenger PAs to the NBA players, to include thanking them for flying Delta.

I’d love to see servant leader guy standing back there, trying to deliver the “eyes on me” lecture.
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Originally Posted by ancman
When I was an ER FO I always got a chuckle out of the captains who would make a full set of passenger PAs to the NBA players, to include thanking them for flying Delta.

I’d love to see servant leader guy standing back there, trying to deliver the “eyes on me” lecture.
Aren’t we only supposed to make the “prepare the cabin for departure/arrival” PAs for charters? I never do charters. I’ve only done 1 on a GS and it was a hedge fund chartering a 75 down to MCO to take employees’ families to Disney.
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Aren’t we only supposed to make the “prepare the cabin for departure/arrival” PAs for charters? I never do charters. I’ve only done 1 on a GS and it was a hedge fund chartering a 75 down to MCO to take employees’ families to Disney.
Yes, charter PAs are supposed to be limited to that (bonus points if you call the FAs directly to advise them of initial, then skip the second PA). I flew with a couple captains who just couldn’t help it.

Normal passenger flights work just fine with nothing more than those two PAs as well.
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