Prepare Yourselves… 2024 AEs
#341
As usual spot on. I think my growth is about to shallow out at a very inopportune time for me. Is what it is, I’m in a good place overall but expectation managment is important. February and March are set to be big hiring months still (rumor) so should squeeze out a couple more percentage points. Regardless, from where I came from, my QOL has never been better so I’ll take the “W”.
#342
FWIW, that math only works as long as we were hiring 200-ish a month, which was hiring 3 additional pilots for every 1 replacing a retiring pilot. Hiring is about to “slow down” to 100-ish a month, which is only hiring 1 additional pilot for every 1 pilot retiring.
Also, as hiring slows down, I suspect the system seniority to hold captain (and WB B, and…) will begin to creep senior.
I only say any of that for expectation management, not to discourage you from trying. Best of luck!
Impossible to predict, as it depends wholly on the bidding behavior of current ATL 7ER B’s bidding out, opening a spot to backfill. It would be surprising if there were enough backfills to fall to a recent hire’s seniority with no posted vacancies. But as others have said, absolutely keep your bid in until it hits. Good luck!
Also, as hiring slows down, I suspect the system seniority to hold captain (and WB B, and…) will begin to creep senior.
I only say any of that for expectation management, not to discourage you from trying. Best of luck!
Impossible to predict, as it depends wholly on the bidding behavior of current ATL 7ER B’s bidding out, opening a spot to backfill. It would be surprising if there were enough backfills to fall to a recent hire’s seniority with no posted vacancies. But as others have said, absolutely keep your bid in until it hits. Good luck!
My brain is at critical mass with all of this training material, so I appreciate being patient with me!
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I think two months is all it takes. After two months of a dry well, staring at PBS and deciding how to optimize B pay in the absence of green slips will probably make some folks make the jump. Those who held out to really make sure the spigot was dry could find themselves stuck at a significantly lower hourly rate than they could have had an AE bid or two behind them. I’m encouraging my buddies to make a jump now if they think they might any time in the next year.
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Yep. Very NB B focused. Interesting to see the course reversal on the 7ER, as they yank open the aperture in LA again. Network can't seem to make up their mind... Makes me wonder why. Do they see NEO deliveries bogging down?
Also interesting to see half the NB A as WB A's posted (though the final award will see more NB A than WB A due to backfills). Those 42 WB A will generate some movement. For example, there will be a decent number of SEA 320 A's awarded even though zero are posted Same with WB B. And even though there are zero postings, there will be WB B awarded. (though they will be much more senior relative to the last couple AE's). So get your bids in. Great example of BWYWWWYB.
That said, there will clearly be much less movement overall than what we have seen since they transitioned to monthly bids for a while. Will be 3-4 more bids before we see things trend back upwards.
Also interesting to see half the NB A as WB A's posted (though the final award will see more NB A than WB A due to backfills). Those 42 WB A will generate some movement. For example, there will be a decent number of SEA 320 A's awarded even though zero are posted Same with WB B. And even though there are zero postings, there will be WB B awarded. (though they will be much more senior relative to the last couple AE's). So get your bids in. Great example of BWYWWWYB.
That said, there will clearly be much less movement overall than what we have seen since they transitioned to monthly bids for a while. Will be 3-4 more bids before we see things trend back upwards.
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I think two months is all it takes. After two months of a dry well, staring at PBS and deciding how to optimize B pay in the absence of green slips will probably make some folks make the jump. Those who held out to really make sure the spigot was dry could find themselves stuck at a significantly lower hourly rate than they could have had an AE bid or two behind them. I’m encouraging my buddies to make a jump now if they think they might any time in the next year.
#350
There will still be a very sizable number of mid seniority FO’s who have gotten used to big months and addicted to that pay level. Realizing a Capt simply making the ALV is equivalent to an FO ‘hustling’ to making 107-117ish credit hours might drive many of them to take an upgrade…. Even WB B roughly splits the difference with a super easy QOL. Time will tell.
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