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Old 10-04-2024, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
This AE has a good chance of having the largest swing between the mock and final award. Since they award literally every position on the mock it could be a very different picture if they cut way back on the final award.

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Old 10-04-2024, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by konabear
I bet all of the A positions get awarded to pilots who are already qualified and don't have a seat lock. Maybe a handful, <10, will require training, but half of those will be awarded a bypass. The B positions will all get filled, too. Very senior, no seat lock breaks required. I wouldn't be surprised to see some NYC 320 As bid BOS 330B.
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That would be a huge strain on the training system. Unless they don’t backfill the holes created by people leaving NYC. This isn’t the first time they have posted pie in the sky numbers and don’t fill them. Time will tell.
Good point. I didn't think about the training churn. I was only thinking about the base transfers and not the backfills. It'll be interesting to see what gets filled and how many bypasses they allow.
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Old 10-04-2024, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by konabear
Good point. I didn't think about the training churn. I was only thinking about the base transfers and not the backfills. It'll be interesting to see what gets filled and how many bypasses they allow.
Maybe a silly question but I’m not well versed in AE awards. Does it matter if it’s a base transfer or a new award from a different airplane? Meaning, if you are more senior but happen to be on the 765 or ER and finally get the shot at driving to work, would you be awarded ahead of someone currently qualified on the 330 but just transferring from NYC to BOS?

For example, of the posted A positions, 35 of the 50 are senior but require training how many do you think they will actually award? I think I’ve heard before that every WBA award creates 7 training events.

Even if all 50 come from base transfers, do those get backfilled? That creates even more training. I love to think about the movement but this is nothing more than a trial balloon to plan for what’s coming. My guess it takes about 4-6 AE bids to get this done.
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Old 10-04-2024, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Maybe a silly question but I’m not well versed in AE awards. Does it matter if it’s a base transfer or a new award from a different airplane? Meaning, if you are more senior but happen to be on the 765 or ER and finally get the shot at driving to work, would you be awarded ahead of someone currently qualified on the 330 but just transferring from NYC to BOS?

For example, of the posted A positions, 35 of the 50 are senior but require training how many do you think they will actually award? I think I’ve heard before that every WBA award creates 7 training events.

Even if all 50 come from base transfers, do those get backfilled? That creates even more training. I love to think about the movement but this is nothing more than a trial balloon to plan for what’s coming. My guess it takes about 4-6 AE bids to get this done.
No, but they can tinker the awards to minimize the training footprint. A pilot junior to you cannot be awarded before you, but if they determine that it's best to not award all the slots offered and you happen to be the cutoff point, then you won't get the award. If you didn't put your bid in at all, then maybe they'd allow that pilot junior to you to get the award if it's not causing a training event.
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Old 10-04-2024, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Maybe a silly question but I’m not well versed in AE awards. Does it matter if it’s a base transfer or a new award from a different airplane? Meaning, if you are more senior but happen to be on the 765 or ER and finally get the shot at driving to work, would you be awarded ahead of someone currently qualified on the 330 but just transferring from NYC to BOS?

For example, of the posted A positions, 35 of the 50 are senior but require training how many do you think they will actually award? I think I’ve heard before that every WBA award creates 7 training events.

Even if all 50 come from base transfers, do those get backfilled? That creates even more training. I love to think about the movement but this is nothing more than a trial balloon to plan for what’s coming. My guess it takes about 4-6 AE bids to get this done.
AEs are in seniority order. They can award less if they need/want to. Whatever opens in other bases they can backfill or not, depending on what they can or want to.

Theres been times they haven’t awarded positions so CAs are not filled or don’t want a NH to get a CA award. I’m sure they will try to fill as many as they can. I just hope NY gets some movement in the NB A.
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Old 10-05-2024, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Verdell
Thing is, looking at the staffing projections between the SEP and OCT AE's, they're not drawing down on the other 330 bases when creating the Boston spots. This suggests that base transfers will then have to be backfilled (vs say, shrinking NYC330 while growing BOS330.)

Sep AE projection had 2,084 330 pilots forecast for Feb 2025.
Oct AE projection has 2,198 330 pilots forecast for Mar 2025.

On a macro level this is absolutely true. As we continue to receive 330-900s we will need more pilots flying the 330. Some of the flying shifting around may change the number of Pilots needed in any particular base - but we will definitely need more 330 Pilots overall since we are still growing the fleet. So NYC can, and might see a permanent reduction in 330 Pilots overall, systemwide the number of 330 Pilots is increasing.

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Old 10-05-2024, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
. I just hope NY gets some movement in the NB A.
I'm curious how many of the Diehard 7ER/765 guys who overlap with "Reopen Boston" will say "oui" and go over to the bus. A lot of fairly senior with a few years left guys on the ER and 765 fleets are in that group.
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Old 10-05-2024, 05:00 AM
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I'm curious how many of the Diehard 7ER/765 guys who overlap with "Reopen Boston" will say "oui" and go over to the bus. A lot of fairly senior with a few years left guys on the ER and 765 fleets are in that group.

If someone would rather commute than drive to work because they're afriad of an aircraft, that has to be considered some type of sickness. I've flown Embrears, multiple Boeings (including the 7ER), Airbus and Douglas, they're all just another airplane. Well, I guess some are more comfortable than others lol.
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Old 10-05-2024, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
If someone would rather commute than drive to work because they're afriad of an aircraft, that has to be considered some type of sickness. I've flown Embrears, multiple Boeings (including the 7ER), Airbus and Douglas, they're all just another airplane. Well, I guess some are more comfortable than others lol.
This!!!! They're all the same, minus creature comforts. Avoiding Airbus *because* it's not Boeing makes zero sense.
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Old 10-05-2024, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
If someone would rather commute than drive to work because they're afriad of an aircraft, that has to be considered some type of sickness. I've flown Embrears, multiple Boeings (including the 7ER), Airbus and Douglas, they're all just another airplane. Well, I guess some are more comfortable than others lol.
There will be plenty who would rather commute for the last 2-3 years of their career than spend a month on VA Ave.
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