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10-02-2024, 02:55 PM

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Trip7

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Originally Posted by Scooter432

any word on when the Lion Air birds start getting the interior mods?

I'm trying to get a planned rollout. Only confirmed info I can find is the first prototype hits the line this fall

10-02-2024, 03:02 PM

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schwifty

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Originally Posted by iaflyer

Dublin isn't a small market from the US and it seems like we easily fill the widebodies we have going there. An A321 is smaller but the navigation charges, landings fees, etc are spread across less passengers. Also, we carry decent amount of cargo, which just adds to the profit for a route. A narrow body is just an expensive plane to fly across the Atlantic.

Some of the fees (landing and airport at least) are often based on weight, so the smaller aircraft could still have a similar cost per passenger. At the edge of its range I'm sure the 321NEO XLR ABCXYZ probably starts getting pretty ineffiencent but on short crossings (such as BOS DUB) the seat per mile cost is going to be lower than a heavy purpose-built long haul widebody (hence the dominance of narrowbodies on transcons).

10-02-2024, 05:45 PM

#1603

FourStripes

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Originally Posted by Trip7

Encouraging news on the 73N per the recent Fleet Newsletter. 73NA slightly overstaffed resulting in lack of backfills on recent AEs. Staffing will increase as Lion Air birds are converted to Delta standard due to increased utilization. Growth expected Q2 2026 with the MAX 10. Obviously the last tidbit should be taken with a grain of salt.

good to know! Speaking of newsletters, any word on when the first 321N “transcon” configuration gets here? Every article I’ve read says Q3 of this year but Delta has been silent about it lately. I wonder if there was a problem with the layout. That’ll be excited to see!

10-02-2024, 05:46 PM

#1604

IceFlash

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Originally Posted by FourStripes

The seats are not certified, that is the holdup

10-02-2024, 05:51 PM

#1605

FourStripes

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Originally Posted by IceFlash

The seats are not certified, that is the holdup

okay makes sense. Jet blue has a great layout, why not just use what they have? The “mint” edition I’m referring to. Any word if Delta’s will be on property this year?

10-02-2024, 06:15 PM

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bluejuice71

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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

That's patently false, there are no more -900s being produced.

As I've psted many many times before, we are not interested in the MAX 9. We want the MAX 10, it and the NEO are the seating capacity we want and both airframes compliment one another.

The MAX10 seating capacity is only 2 more seats than the 900! 182 vs 180.

10-02-2024, 06:20 PM

#1607

Gone Flying

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Originally Posted by bluejuice71

The MAX10 seating capacity is only 2 more seats than the 900! 182 vs 180.

the Max 10 will have more comfort seats

-900s are 20/21/139
max 10s are going to be 20/33/129

the -10 is about 5 feet longer than the 900/ max 9.

10-02-2024, 06:23 PM

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RCAC

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Originally Posted by bluejuice71

The MAX10 seating capacity is only 2 more seats than the 900! 182 vs 180.

In a bare bones economy configuration, a Max 9 would take 220 pax and a Max 10 would take 230. We want the Max 10 as it allows us more of a premium cabin.

10-02-2024, 06:27 PM

#1609

Khantahr

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Originally Posted by RCAC

In a bare bones economy configuration, a Max 9 would take 220 pax and a Max 10 would take 230. We want the Max 10 as it allows us more of a premium cabin.

Is anything really premium in a 73 though?

I kid. Sorta.

10-02-2024, 07:07 PM

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DeltaboundRedux

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Originally Posted by Trip7

NGL, it feels super overstaffed in SLC.

Watching senior A's returning to ATL for "bounces" training from the sidelines (I like to work, sue me).

"Rolling Thunder" goint to be the stuff of legends in a couple of years.