Khantahr

Struggle = can't climb with anti-ice on, can't run the packs on idle power, can't take a jumpseater, and some other stuff I've forgotten. Slow climbing is just slow climbing.

CrazyEight

Ok but no. What you are describing is just Canada's first attempts at a transport category airplane, a plane taken from a turbo prop origins. That is just a s-box all around.

notEnuf

All the more reason to go big early. If you're going to regress you need to make the most coin possible for as long as possible.

iahflyr

Your prediction is the opposite of the trend that has been happening over the last 25 years. That trend has been to replace much larger wide bodies from large hub to large hub with smaller gauge airplanes to smaller airports, more frequency, and from more hubs here in the US. That is why no US airline ordered the A380. The one exception to this is highly slot constrained airports that can handle the traffic (like JFK-LHR).

Why would someone fly BOS-JFK, then JFK-EDI (on an A330, and perhaps only offered a couple days a week), when they can fly BOS-EDI nonstop on an A321 with daily service.

I believe all international 757 will go to A321 or similar, and a large chunk of 767 will go that way as well. There may be a few 767 routes that get replaced with A330, but I think the vast majority will go to narrow body with more frequency and routes options.

CX500T

Having flown both the 321Neo and 757, I think the NEO is gonna struggle when alternate airports aren't close or real bad winds. The NEO struggled on BOS-SEA transcon flights when the nearest alternate was PDX or further. Especially if the wind was up.

757. Mo gas. Maybe a D-TO Flaps 15 takeoff.

Gone Flying

-we don’t fly the 757 to europe (except KEF)
-we don’t have any XLR orders
-EB has been pretty vocal about keeping NBs off flights to Europe.

We have been consistently up gauging metal over the past 15 years, look at all the places we fly 330s and 350s to that used to be 763s. I stand by my assessment that most 767 routes will go to the 330 or 350. We are not going to replace a 220 seat airplane on a route that goes out full frequently with a 140 seat XLR that cannot carry any revenue cargo.

im not saying we won’t eventually get XLRs or use them to Europe, but they won’t replace a majority of our 767s

PilotBases

Agreed here. Plenty of routes can take the A330, especially if we change the seating configuration down the line. The SAS JV could easily see CPH and ARN upgauge. BCN currently twice a day out of JFK on the 763, definitely could support the 330.

iahflyr

But why go from twice daily to once daily? Customers prefer more options and you are not slot constrained at BCN. That is why they currently fly 2 aircraft a day and not 1.

PilotBases

Sorry, my point is that it's a growing market, used to be 1x now 2x, so there's every chance it could see upgauging beyond that. Theres also the 764 for an in between size, put current 764 stuff to 330, and 764 on 763 stuff.

Uninteresting

He’s certainly the minister of Doom. Every time he posts, I think of the old guy in “Friday the 13th”. You’re all DOOMED!!!!”