Prepare Yourselves… 2024 AEs
08-09-2024, 08:01 AM
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There has never been a Delta 350 at JFK. I don't think we'll see a base there any time soon. We don't even fly to Asia from JFK (that would be a first step.)
The AE's continually allude to standing up the BOS 330 base in one bid period (ie: holding pilots current in the aircraft in their current category until other pilots finish training.) I predict a Fall AE with 70 A and 140 B positions. The vast majority of A awardees will be senior NYC pilots (330, 7ER, maybe even a few 765 hold-outs who will learn French so they can drive to work.) They will backfill most but not all of these NYC 330 positions. This will lead to later 2007 hires being awarded 330A in NYC. 2014 hires will have to wait a while.
The AE's continually allude to standing up the BOS 330 base in one bid period (ie: holding pilots current in the aircraft in their current category until other pilots finish training.) I predict a Fall AE with 70 A and 140 B positions. The vast majority of A awardees will be senior NYC pilots (330, 7ER, maybe even a few 765 hold-outs who will learn French so they can drive to work.) They will backfill most but not all of these NYC 330 positions. This will lead to later 2007 hires being awarded 330A in NYC. 2014 hires will have to wait a while.
They’ve said the final category is 200-250 pilots, but I doubt the opening will be anywhere near as big as 70/140 (which is in line with that final number). I think it will open small, over 2 bids, and then once the “seat lock break” period of 60 days is over, they will fill the remainder of the 200-250.
Just for fun, 15/25 on the opening bid is my prediction.
08-09-2024, 08:21 AM
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The routes that might cause NYC350 to materialize are BOM, ICN, and TLV (with DEL, JNB, and HND ((that ship probably sailed with the PDX issue)) being remotely possible as well, but unlikely). So yeah, I'm not holding my breath on it happening anytime soon, maybe towards the middle to end of the 35k deliveries.
08-09-2024, 08:30 AM
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The routes that might cause NYC350 to materialize are BOM, ICN, and TLV (with DEL, JNB, and HND ((that ship probably sailed with the PDX issue)) being remotely possible as well, but unlikely). So yeah, I'm not holding my breath on it happening anytime soon, maybe towards the middle to end of the 35k deliveries.
I think NYC350 is a few years off but inevitable.
08-10-2024, 05:03 AM
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08-10-2024, 06:08 AM
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The routes that might cause NYC350 to materialize are BOM, ICN, and TLV (with DEL, JNB, and HND ((that ship probably sailed with the PDX issue)) being remotely possible as well, but unlikely). So yeah, I'm not holding my breath on it happening anytime soon, maybe towards the middle to end of the 35k deliveries.
08-10-2024, 06:17 AM
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What I'd give to see JFK-HND.
More likely to see BOM, ICN, TLV, maybe ATH seasonally, Deep South America too. United has JNB/CPT from EWR and there's no open skies with SA, so I don't see those happening. -1000 could hit LHR/AMS/CDG as needed. Heard the plan is not much more than a dozen intl 763s by 2026 (way more than a dozen in fleet, just not intl) so I'd expect to see A330s rapidly flooding NYC, and the 764 has shrunk from JFK, moved more to ATL. Would be surprised to see it consolidate at ATL the last few years of its life.
On order still 10 339, 12 359, 20 351, 20 options of any Airbus widebody. I don't think Boston will "steal" pilots, as much as just get the inside rotations that cover Boston to be pure Boston trips, and with the new 330 growth it'll be offset in other bases with new flying. Cathay just made a major 339 order, 30 firm and 30 options. That might make us more comfortable ordering more, as it expands its blue chip base. Virgin Atlantic just grabbed a few too.
More likely to see BOM, ICN, TLV, maybe ATH seasonally, Deep South America too. United has JNB/CPT from EWR and there's no open skies with SA, so I don't see those happening. -1000 could hit LHR/AMS/CDG as needed. Heard the plan is not much more than a dozen intl 763s by 2026 (way more than a dozen in fleet, just not intl) so I'd expect to see A330s rapidly flooding NYC, and the 764 has shrunk from JFK, moved more to ATL. Would be surprised to see it consolidate at ATL the last few years of its life.
On order still 10 339, 12 359, 20 351, 20 options of any Airbus widebody. I don't think Boston will "steal" pilots, as much as just get the inside rotations that cover Boston to be pure Boston trips, and with the new 330 growth it'll be offset in other bases with new flying. Cathay just made a major 339 order, 30 firm and 30 options. That might make us more comfortable ordering more, as it expands its blue chip base. Virgin Atlantic just grabbed a few too.
08-10-2024, 06:18 AM
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08-10-2024, 07:59 AM
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What I'd give to see JFK-HND.
More likely to see BOM, ICN, TLV, maybe ATH seasonally, Deep South America too. United has JNB/CPT from EWR and there's no open skies with SA, so I don't see those happening. -1000 could hit LHR/AMS/CDG as needed. Heard the plan is not much more than a dozen intl 763s by 2026 (way more than a dozen in fleet, just not intl) so I'd expect to see A330s rapidly flooding NYC, and the 764 has shrunk from JFK, moved more to ATL. Would be surprised to see it consolidate at ATL the last few years of its life.
On order still 10 339, 12 359, 20 351, 20 options of any Airbus widebody. I don't think Boston will "steal" pilots, as much as just get the inside rotations that cover Boston to be pure Boston trips, and with the new 330 growth it'll be offset in other bases with new flying. Cathay just made a major 339 order, 30 firm and 30 options. That might make us more comfortable ordering more, as it expands its blue chip base. Virgin Atlantic just grabbed a few too.
More likely to see BOM, ICN, TLV, maybe ATH seasonally, Deep South America too. United has JNB/CPT from EWR and there's no open skies with SA, so I don't see those happening. -1000 could hit LHR/AMS/CDG as needed. Heard the plan is not much more than a dozen intl 763s by 2026 (way more than a dozen in fleet, just not intl) so I'd expect to see A330s rapidly flooding NYC, and the 764 has shrunk from JFK, moved more to ATL. Would be surprised to see it consolidate at ATL the last few years of its life.
On order still 10 339, 12 359, 20 351, 20 options of any Airbus widebody. I don't think Boston will "steal" pilots, as much as just get the inside rotations that cover Boston to be pure Boston trips, and with the new 330 growth it'll be offset in other bases with new flying. Cathay just made a major 339 order, 30 firm and 30 options. That might make us more comfortable ordering more, as it expands its blue chip base. Virgin Atlantic just grabbed a few too.
08-11-2024, 07:25 AM
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